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Subject: Re: Cloning...

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 14:32:27 05/07/05

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On May 06, 2005 at 13:17:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 06, 2005 at 13:08:31, Alex Schmidt wrote:
>
>>Hello Uri,
>>
>>>I think that we need to generate secret test that can be run automatically to
>>>detect if a program is clone of another known program and send it to Leo and
>>>Frank quisinsky so they can detect clones fast when they get one.
>>
>>a nice idea. The only problem is that the evaluation can be changed and the
>>moves can be different. So it would be necessary to write an own program that
>>can send special commands to the engines and seeks for identical replies.
>>
>>Maybe inbetween could be a good basis for such a program?
>>
>>Best,
>>Alex
>
>In the cases that were detected the evaluation was also similiar.
>
>similiarity in evaluation and in moves can be one thing to check automatically
>but not the only thing and it is better if cloners will not know exactly what is
>checked automatically.
>
>Uri


Uri,
You talk about secret positions but _someone_ have to know about these
positions. If for instance you or some other programmer develop these positions,
you can be a cloner yourself. I'm not accusing you of anything, it's just a
theoretical reasoning. Furthermore, if I was accused of that Terra or Alaric
were clones, based of some secret positions, I would demand to see these
positions and claim that someting is wrong. In that case it had to be!
The bottom line is, it's really hard to keep positions secret.
/Peter



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