Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 04:54:32 09/08/05
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Nice defense from your side! No, I dont agree with all the other points but I asked what a message could be worth if already the first statement is wrong. Let me take two new statements from your second defense. (1) Why complying to a company just because it came first? That is a typical mathematical error, overseeing the reality outside of maths. If you ask me morally then yes at every instant of history, so also right now, every newcomer has the same rights and chances than the runners from the past. This exactly gives the three persons defending Zappa business plans all the rights to do what they want right now. No doubt about it. But where is the error? Being blind for realities. Namely that history doesn't begin at point zero the moment Zappa appeared! It's NOT that ChessBase has the moral right or whatever but for probably two decades now these people are in the market with their creativity and smartness. You cannot and shouldn't dispute that as a fact. But all the questions and ideas here from the audience based on that fact namely because most of all are users of ChessBase. They don't care about new GUIs, they want the actual Wch in their directory in their known FRITZ-GUI. Period. That was the same with REBEL. At one time Ed allowed his engine to be in FRITZ. And you know why I didn't buy it? Out of bad intentions towards Ed? No! Only because Ed had made clear that this would be just a one-time experiment. What, I asked myself, I should now adapt to REBEL engine and later there is no future? No! Where is the problem to understand and see the situation as it _is_? Money greed? I for one am simply surprised that such bright young people can make so many mistakes in a row. (2) Gian-Carlo calls a spider a spider and hypocrits hypocrits! Now this makes me think if you are really a defense attorney or simply a devil in disguise. :) Let me ask you a personal question. Imagine we all came here with a little picture of our faces. You clearly showed us your bald pate. And to greet you I always ask you "How's your bald pate doing today?" Remember a pate is a pate and I just asked you because everybody knew that already with your pate. So where is the problem? The point is this here. NB that I want to sell you a nice dressing, I want to come into business contacts with you. Then I see a wart on your nose, and I call it a wart and tell you so. etc. Would you really think that you after all this would still buy anything at all from ME?? I myself am famous for speaking out certain truths even if I can't make friends this way. The reason is that for me the truth is more important than just collecting "friends". Also because I learned already at school that a real friend would always be happy if I criticised him for good reasons. Simply because he wants to profit from my judgement. What are friends worth who are only my friends because I was creeping into their a***** all the time? But in the case of Gian-Carlo the other problem is that the spider isn't a spider at all! And still he calls it a spider. Gian-Carlo has UCI embedding for his SJENG! And he calls people hypocrits who want to have UCI in Zappa! Bingo! Now you and others say (again mathematically correct but without reality content) that ChessBase itself has no UCI mode for FRITZ! And nobody would complain! But in the case of Zappa all complained! So what a bunch of hypocrits! Don't you see the error? It's not because ChessBase in fact HAS UCI for FRITZ. No! It has NOT. But the point is that everybody has FRITZ and wants to have the other engines over UCI. So, why on Earth ChessBase should write UCI for FRITZ? I must admit that here one could well imagine different rules in Law and Business Rules. IF these two would order that to avoid monopolism such a different treatment would be excluded, THEN newcomers had much more chances than today. But to insinuate as if the ordinary user is an evil supporter of the ChessBase monopoly, isn't this a bit too far a stretch? So, here again you see that in abstract terms you could be right but in reality (as it still is today and will be tomorrow) you are wrong and always confusing the two spheres or levels is not very helpful. And above all on the base of our reality you simply cannot defend that one Gian-Carlo is insulting the members here as hypocrits. They are not guilty of hypocrisy when they are simply realists.
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