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Subject: Re: SSDF(Fritz 9 - Fruit 2.2.1)A1200, 2-4

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 06:15:18 12/30/05

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On December 30, 2005 at 08:41:56, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 30, 2005 at 08:37:24, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2005 at 08:19:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 30, 2005 at 08:11:49, Austin A. Biberink wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 30, 2005 at 07:57:16, gerold daniels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello Tony.Thanks for your testing. Nice to see you are testing Fruit.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but it would be even more nice to see that SSDF would be testing:
>>>>
>>>>1. the strongest freeware engine
>>>>2. the currently strongest engine
>>>>
>>>>(1.) = Toga II 1.1a
>>>
>>>It is not clear if the strongest freeware engine is TogaII1.1a or GambitFruit
>>>
>>>The CEGT rating list has
>>>
>>>9 Toga II 1.1 2767 15 15 1375 60.5 % 2693 36.9 %
>>>14 Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 4bx 2740 26 26 468 52.4 % 2724 33.3 %
>>>
>>>The possible error is too small to know if TogaII 1.1 is better than Gambit
>>>Fruit1.0 Beta4bx in CEGT conditions and based on Ryan, Toga is probably weaker
>>>at long time control because of some change that is productive only at blitz and
>>>the SSDF use longer time control than the CEGT.
>>
>>Uhm, I'm not so sure. Error margins don't add linearly. From eyeballing, the
>>CEGT list gives >90% probability that Toga is stronger than Gambit Fruit.
>>
>>Where is the proof that "some change in Toga is only productive in blitz"?
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>I do not know the proof because I did not learn the differences between Toga and
>Fruit2.1 but I trust Ryan about it.

I don't. CEGT shows Toga 1.1 to be 50 points ahead of Fruit 2.1 in the 40/40
list.

                                      Albert



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