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Subject: Re: Compitition good, but Chess Base taking over?

Author: Marcus Kaestner

Date: 16:24:23 05/30/99

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>Why nonsense - Both Fritz5 & Junior have won many human & computer tournaments,
>and Fritz5 has even recently won (well allegedly  won), in the guise of Allerman
>a Swiss event in Germany at normal time controls.  Note; that I didn't say that
>other programs did not win, just that the many engines available from Chess Base
>have won just about everything.

i´ve never seen fritz winning a "really" computer tournament. junior - yes.
against humans, others are as strong as fritz. remember rebel defeating anand
on short time levels. same as fritz did in the past.
so others are as competitive as the chessbase engines.

>You seem to like this 'nonsense' expression.  I am not familiar with tiger,

yes

>although I have heard of its promising test results and look forward to it
>taking a high place (Hopefully), in the chess engine world.  Still that is not
>the same as currently available and competitive results of programs like Fritz5,
>HIARCS6/7, Junior5, etc...

ok

>Well I upgraded to Millenium Chess Genius 6 (from 5), and the only engines I
>noticed were previous versions of Chess Genius (which I already owned), so no
>gain of anything new.  And of course as we all came to know later, Genius6
>engine itself does not yet exist!

yes, thar´s true, but also the same with fritz5.

>I noticed a typical upgrad price of any Fritz engine has been about $40 dollars.
> I just bought HIARCS7 (Upgrade from previous engines), from Chess Base USA for
>$32 dollars ($3 shipping).  That beats any price I have seen for programs like
>Shredder, W-Chess, Nimzo (except when you buy it as a Fritz style gui!).  I've
>seen an average price of these programs of $119.00 new, & $65 dollars (or more),
>as upgrades.  If you have some information where I can get similar new, &
>upgrade prices of these engines (as compared to buying from Chess Base &
>distributors), I would be most interested.  But using your catorgorical &
>insulting expression of 'nonsense', means nothing factual to me.
>

maybe in your country are different prices. ask gambitsoft.

>Why do you insist on being insulting.  I expressed my opinion, as logically as I

i´m not insulting. i do only express my opinion - as you.

>could based on the knowledge I have about these programs.  I am as entitled to
>my opinion(s) as you are, (or anyone else is), and I feel I must really have
>'hit a nerve' for you to have to be so insulting, without producing any actual

no nerve. only incorrect statements.

>factual contridictory evidence that my post was incorrect. Frankly, I am both
>surprised and dissapointed that my post has caused you to react with such
>hostility at me.

sorry, if you´re feeling hurted. i didn´t want.

>Moderators: please give Mr. Marcus Kaestner a chance to read this post, before
>deleting it. Thanks.

no reason to delete anything. we´re not at the childhood.

>
>mrslug - the COMPETENT chess software addict!

ok, why not?

marcus



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