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Subject: Re: 9th WCCC99 . '' june 14 - 20 " Notable ausence.

Author: Prakash Das

Date: 21:07:02 06/02/99

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On June 02, 1999 at 23:52:11, Prakash Das wrote:

>On June 02, 1999 at 15:30:41, Tania Devora wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>What is the hardware for the 9th  Wccc99 ?
>>
>>There are many strong computer programs that not go to participate in this
>>World championship , like Chessmaster6000,  and many others.
>>
>>I think that this is not a fair play . Cilkchess and others programs will run is
>>a Super machines, is evident that could win easy.
>>
>>For me all the programs, will run in the same computer with the same ram memory.
>>
>>Is the only way to see the real strengh of the program.
>>
>>For example Fritz5.32 in a Pentium III 500 MHZ could beat Fritz5.32 (pentium 200
>>mmx) , for a big score.
>
>
> Tania, you are wasting your breath. A while back, I started a thread called
>"Uneven hardware for wmcc?" in which I questioned the purpose of this
>self-congratulatory exercise.
> Most of teh replies went like this: it's fun, it's like creating a Mount
>Olympus of chess programs, we are coming with the meanest baddest machine, etc
>etc. No one really cared about addressing the real point: what the hell is going
>to be accomplished.
> So, sit back, and get ready for a few yawns. You will see the same old programs
>which are at "top of charts" decimate the others (not bad programs necessarily)
>running on weak hardware.
> If we tried to solve cancer in this "scientific" manner, there's no hope for
>living beings.

 Well, following up on myself. I thought this was obvious, but as in my previous
post on that other thread, let's say program A on big bad hardware B, beat
program D on weaker hardware E. What did this prove? Wins and losses are all
relative, and so will be the standings later on. What kind of Mount Olympus did
we scale (Karinsdad)?? It is a mirage where we appear to have created a super
"playing system".  But this would have achieved by beating another on weaker
hardware. Next day, the result will be different.

 Let's hold a WMCC everyday with changing hardware. That way, we will create
tons of mount Olympus!



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