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Subject: Re: Shep Championship 1999 Announcement

Author: Shep

Date: 06:49:40 06/09/99

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On June 09, 1999 at 06:36:07, Baldomero Garcia, Jr. wrote:

>On June 08, 1999 at 08:54:02, Shep wrote:
>
>> Hiarcs 7.32
>> Chessmaster 5555
>I would agree that a preliminary match between cm5555 and cm6000 is in order to
>determine the player.  I would much rather see cm6000 play, since it's the
>latest version.

1) I'd rather have the strongest, not the latest version participate. :)
2) Preliminaries between different versions of the same program is pretty
pointless to me. Because if the programmer has mostly tested against his
previous versions, the new one is only fine-tuned against this one opponent (I
know Johan does not work this way, but it's a principle to me).

Either 5555 AND 6000 will play or 5555 alone.

>> Chess Tiger 11.5
>> Chess Tiger 11.9
>Other people said it already:  I'd much rather see only one version of this
>program, even if it was the champion last year.

Seems the majority sees it that way. But this is not an election, sorry. ;-)
If Christophe steps forward and says "I'm also in favour of dropping 11.5", I
will do it, but if not, I'll rather keep it.

>> Chess System Tal II
>Has this program performed well vs other programs?  I haven't heard much about
>it.

A couple of programs I have not been able to test (because I bought them just a
few days/weeks ago) will play without prior 'quality tests', simply based on
their good reputation. CSTal, Shredder, Nimzo and LGGold fall in this category.

>> Shredder 3.0
>> Nimzo 99
>> Fritz 5.32
>> Rebel 10.0a EOC
>I'd say the author of the program should decide which version should play
>(whether it's the a, b, c or d version)

Remember this is not WCCC (or WMCCC or UWMCCC), so I have a different approach
to this matter. Of course, if Ed insists he wants 10d (or 10.5, wink, wink :-)
in it, I'll do it because I respect the fact he knows Rebel best.
But 10c is out of the question. :)

>> Junior 5.0
>> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX    (The final competitor remains to be
>>  (XXXXXXX XXXXXX,              announced.)
>>   XXX)
>So, who's the top SSDF/Selective Search program that's not included?  Whichever
>one it is should fill this spot.

Whoops. That would be Fritz 5.16. Ah, but no-one wants two instances of the
same... ;-)
Or Rebel 9 - wait, no... Nimzo 98... hmmmm... Hiarcs 6... Aaargh!!
Seems everyone is already there in their newest version. :-)

As I said, MChess is my #1 choice for the final slot (CM 6000 being the #2).
Both 7 and 8 haven't played too successfully at SCCS so far (except at faster
time controls).
But if Marty doesn't come up with 9 beta, I will probably have MCP8 in.
Or play a qualifier series MCHess 8 vs. CM 6000. (Sounds good to me. Maybe I
will already start it today.)

I will not make a final decision about these issues (Tiger 11.5 in/out, Rebel
10a/10d, CM6000/MCP8) until the starting date anyway (this will be sometime
during the week starting on June 21st).

---
Shep








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