Author: Micheal Cummings
Date: 22:35:38 06/18/99
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On June 19, 1999 at 00:20:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 18, 1999 at 20:35:39, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On June 18, 1999 at 20:16:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 1999 at 18:31:05, Roger D Davis wrote: >>> >>>>I found this message on the Rebel Site where the events of round six were >>>>reported: >>>> >>>>Ed and I took the opportunity to play some 10 minute blitz games against Deep >>>>Blue Junior. Amazingly Rebel crushed the IBM supermonster with 3-0! Deep Blue >>>>Junior had no chance in these games, so one can have his doubts about the >>>>playing strength of this machine. >>>> >>>>I haven't seen anyone else mention Deep Blue Junior. >>>> >>>>Roger >>> >>> >>>Ed didn't tell "the rest of the story" so I will... >>> >>>I ask Hsu about this 'machine' a few weeks back, and here is what he told me >>>about it: >>> >>>Some internal IBM folks asked him to develop a 'demo' facility to show off DB. >>>He elected to do a web-based interface, which is "stateless" if you know what >>>this is all about. In essence, this machine won't play a "game" at all, it >>>simply takes a position, searches it for 1 second (which includes mostly the >>>time needed to download the chess processors with the state information) and >>>then it produces a move. No repetition testing at all, no game history, no >>>nothing except for a near-instant search. However, it can take quite a while >>>to make a move because _many_ web browsers get pointed at this thing by the >>>IBM guys doing demos... >>> >>>Hsu estimated that it might play at 2200 or so. Which was all that was needed >>>for the demonstrations it is used for. It is _not_ "deep blue junior" by any >>>measure you would care to name. >>> >>>And putting such nonsense on Ed's web page is _highly_ misleading. >>> >>>To say the least. >>> >>>Bob >> >>It's a bit hard to fault people who might not be aware of the complete details >>of the setup. >> >>Dave > > >I don't believe this has been a secret. I certainly have mentioned this more >than once the past month... And they could always "ask" what it was they were >playing against before reporting it? If this is the case, why bother having it there. A demo should be a demostration of a program with a few limitations, seems to me this was just a program hacked up in a sloppy manner and put their for its name.
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