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Subject: Re: And the reason to purchase CSTal is what again?To Thorsten Czub

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 13:52:40 08/24/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 15:37:51, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 24, 1999 at 13:51:00, rich wrote:
>
>>Chessplayers hate losing and love winning!
>>Do you think Mikhail Tal would have sat there at move 39 with 5 mins left
>>only to lose on time? Why do you think Tal made speculative sacrifices all the
>>time? The answer is he wanted to win.He didn't wan't to play dull draws .
>>But in order to win a game the time-controls must be respected.
>>Thus I think it is safe to say that Mikhail Tal would have played a move and
>>at least not lost on time.
>>CHESSLAW: IF you overstep the time limit you LOSE the game.
>>If CST2 doesn't follow this law then it is not playing chess, it is playing
>>something else...
>
>Nonsense. if all chessplayers who overstep time limit
>do NOT play chess but something else, i would know many many NON-chess players.
>Accept this: losing on time is the sense of the clocks.
>it is part of the game to overstep time. a program that does NOT
>overstep time is like a human beeing never going to the toilette.
>Although in movies often they don't go to the toilette, you have to accept
>that this is NOT normal.
>Humans overstep time.
>Cstal too.
>so - anything is ok.

I can't believe this is still going on.

Overstepping the time control can be a bug or a feature depending upon why the
program does it.  This problem was probably originally a bug, although it is
difficult to know for certain, and when it was discovered it may have been left
in as an uncorrected bug, or deemed to be a feature, perhaps with a laugh.

As to whether CST is somehow superior to other programs because it does this,
that's nonsense.

As to whether it is not following the law of chess, because it flags, that's
nonsense too.

As to whether the programmer has some sort of moral duty to increase objective
strength at every opportunity, I don't think so.

bruce



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