Author: Mark Young
Date: 15:52:39 09/01/99
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On September 01, 1999 at 05:53:59, Ralf Elvsén wrote: >On August 31, 1999 at 22:39:09, eric guttenberg wrote: > >>If there is any reliable data showing that CST can even hold its own with >>H7.32 in a significant number of games, I will be surprised to see it. >> >> >>eric > >Could you (or Mark or anyone else...) who have seen CSTal >play alot, tell me why you think it is weaker than e.g. Hiarcs? >(I don't own a copy). > >Is it because it goes for unsound kingside attacks with >silly sacrifices, or is it just weaker in general? > >I always thought that it would be interesting to see >a CSPetrosian, since that style might be better suited >to the programming technique used in CSTal (not that >I know anything about it, except for the low NPS). > >Even if it is significantly weaker at the moment, I think >it is strong enough to prove a point, namely that programs >written in a "non-orthodox" way can play good chess. Since >this seems to be a program developed by one person (?) there >should be room for many improvements and, who knows, that >approach might be more successful than present data indicates. >I mean, imagine ten programmers representing >this approach exchanging ideas here at CCC. It would probably >give a marginal effect much bigger than for the discussions >taking place here now (not that I have anything against them, >just an illustration). > >Ralf Yes IMO CST plays unsound chess, any program can have great wins, but if you lose 9 out of 10 games to get that one great win....IMO I don't call that program a great program with an exciting style of play. I would just call it sad, in light of all the very good programs on the market today that also generate great wins. No need to name the programs.... As many of us know, you can take cm6000 and get the same style of play as CST, but with a much better tactical eye. I have nothing against CST style of play or any style of play, but the program must be able to win with that style. Mark "The Bean Counter"
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