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Subject: Re: Pawn Majorities : some working examples...

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 12:04:36 09/20/99

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On September 20, 1999 at 14:42:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

[snip]
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    8  |   |   |   |   |   |   | *K|   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    7  | *P| *P|   |   |   | *P| *P| *P|
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    5  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    4  |   |   |   |   |   | *B|   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    3  |   |   |   |   |   |   | N |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    2  | P | P | P |   |   | P | P | K |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    1  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>This is the position prior to the last one.  I (as black) played Bxg3.  Old
>crafty promptly plays Kxg3 and now it has to watch out for the passed black
>pawn on the h file (eventually).  new crafty plays fxg3 and black isn't going
>to make any passer.
>

Looks impressive Robert.

One question: How does this specific example work with rooks left on the board?
Having a position low in the graph of this example does not have a problem due
to the normal search preventing king threats and mate. However, if this pawn
evaluation is done 18 ply down, I could see a potential problem such as:

       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    8  |   |   |   |   |   |   | *K|   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    7  | *P| *P|   |   | R | *P| *P|   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | *P|
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    5  |   |   |   | *R|   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    4  |   |   |   |   |   | *B|   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    3  |   |   |   |   |   |   | N |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    2  | P | P | P |   | R | P | P | K |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    1  |   |   |   | *R|   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

Bxg3, fxg3 Rh5++

Do you have other code which forces you to check for king safety a few ply below
the pawn evalutation or do you just realize that event horizon is a problem
regardless and that if you are 18 ply down, there may be an alternative before
the actual position gets there anyway?

KarinsDad :)



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