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Subject: Re: ICC Green List - Nov 29

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 11:37:24 11/29/99

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On November 29, 1999 at 13:59:38, Will Singleton wrote:

>On November 29, 1999 at 12:32:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>Hello Vincent!  Nice to hear from you.
>
>>
>>Then the current experiment i modified [Moron's] formula for blitz:
>>    !computer & rating >= 2200
>>
>
>When I set up the list, I decided upon a couple of restrictions for accounts.
>One (as noted in the GL post) says that accounts that restrict computer play
>(too severely) are not eligible.

Your own account is more restricted than moron is!

Mood = 0:

 formula = "(( mood=0 & ( ( (blitz | bullet) & (time>=1 & time<=5 & inc=2) &
((rating > myrating - 400) | !rated) ) | (standard & inc>1 & inc < 11 & rating
>= 1900) ) )| (mood=1 & standard & inc>1 & rating >= 1900)) & !wild & (!computer
| rating > 2300)"

moron allows *all blitz* levels which sometimes profit
huge from this. The only restriction is that computers are not allowed
rated at blitz, as i can easily proof that the blitz rating of moron then
is for 95% dependant upon its score against crafty instead of against
'mean and rotten' humans.

At blitz you're allowing only: 3 2, 4 2, 5 2
that's rather fast for humanity.

>>Now currently the vars of secret (diep linux not the newest version
>>though but regurarly updated) is next:
>>
>>   formula = "autocolor & !freeweek & !wild &
>>(rating>=2200+300*blitz|rating>=2300&time<=3&inc=0) &
>>((time<=5&inc<=3)|(standard&etime<=60)) & (!computer | unrated)"
>>   Channels: 64 194
>>   interface="xboard 4.0.3 + diep"
>>
>>So basically playing all players above 2500 at blitz if not a computer.
>>I wonder why neither Moron nor Secret is in the list of Will.
>>Comments will? Has it to do with the fact that both are dual machines?
>
>
>Secret isn't included because of the !computer, and also because this account
>tends to change programs.  Dual machines are ok.

that's not true anymore. Last months it didn't switch and in the
foreseeable future it won't either.

>>
>>
>>I mean: Judgeturpin is a 266PII getting 5 ply sometimes 6 ply in blitz.
>>Hard to take ratings based upon a 5 or 6 ply serious!
>
>Playing against JT regularly, I notice it gets 8 ply in most situations.  Sweeny
>has said that it will very infrequently limit itself to 6 ply, but indicates
>that this seems like a bug, and it doesn't do well when that happens.

This is the wrong approach. Sure it gets 8 ply in most endgames or more.
However if you get say 10 moves after each other 6 ply in the middlegame,
then i'm not happy.

Chess is a game of weakest chain. If you get 6 ply when tactics are
most needed, then you're smoked usual.

I only look to the depths diep gets at crucial (tactical) moments.
Sure if a move is predicted and a recapture it's a lot easier to get
deep...

Basically your list is based upon the programs you play against with
Amateur rated a lot:

   1  2483 JudgeTurpi 2444 Amateur    1-0 [ br  5   3] C65 Res 28-Nov-99
   2  2460 Amateur    2467 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] D29 Res 28-Nov-99
   3  2476 Amateur    2479 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] B40 Mat 27-Nov-99
   4  2326 Amateur    2487 JudgeTurpi 1-0 [ sr 15   2] A16 Res 25-Nov-99
   5  2512 JudgeTurpi 2301 Amateur    1-0 [ sr 15   2] C99 Res 25-Nov-99
   6  2492 JudgeTurpi 2542 Amateur    1-0 [ br  5   3] B42 Res 25-Nov-99
   7  2562 Amateur    2472 JudgeTurpi 1-0 [ br  5   3] C05 Mat 25-Nov-99
   8  2516 Amateur    2478 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ bu  5   3] B40 Fla 16-Nov-99
   9  2478 JudgeTurpi 2516 Amateur    1-0 [ bu  5   3] C92 Res 16-Nov-99
  10  2516 Amateur    2478 JudgeTurpi  =  [ bu  5   3] C99  50 16-Nov-99
  11  2440 Amateur    2496 JudgeTurpi 1-0 [ br  5   3] B33 Res 13-Nov-99
  12  2516 JudgeTurpi 2420 Amateur    1-0 [ br  5   3] D00 Res 13-Nov-99
  13  2462 Amateur    2545 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] A11 Mat 13-Nov-99
  14  2415 Amateur    2531 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] A17 Mat 13-Nov-99
  15  2434 Amateur    2518 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] B86 Mat 13-Nov-99
  16  2505 JudgeTurpi 2447 Amateur     =  [ br  5   3] D86 Rep 13-Nov-99
  17  2351 Amateur    2534 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   2] D29 Mat 12-Nov-99
  18  2525 JudgeTurpi 2360 Amateur    0-1 [ br  5   2] D15 Fla 12-Nov-99
  19  2311 Amateur    2550 JudgeTurpi 0-1 [ br  5   3] A09 Mat 11-Nov-99

>>What is R for kind of function. Why not
>>apply it at standard levels too?

>Function is described in the post.  I will do STD list in the future (one thing
>at a time).

>Will



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