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Subject: Re: ICC Green List - Nov 29

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 13:48:43 11/29/99

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On November 29, 1999 at 14:37:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 29, 1999 at 13:59:38, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 1999 at 12:32:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>Hello Vincent!  Nice to hear from you.
>>
>>>
>>>Then the current experiment i modified [Moron's] formula for blitz:
>>>    !computer & rating >= 2200
>>>
>>
>>When I set up the list, I decided upon a couple of restrictions for accounts.
>>One (as noted in the GL post) says that accounts that restrict computer play
>>(too severely) are not eligible.
>
>Your own account is more restricted than moron is!
>
>Mood = 0:
>
> formula = "(( mood=0 & ( ( (blitz | bullet) & (time>=1 & time<=5 & inc=2) &
>((rating > myrating - 400) | !rated) ) | (standard & inc>1 & inc < 11 & rating
>>= 1900) ) )| (mood=1 & standard & inc>1 & rating >= 1900)) & !wild & (!computer
>| rating > 2300)"

>
>moron allows *all blitz* levels which sometimes profit
>huge from this. The only restriction is that computers are not allowed
>rated at blitz, as i can easily proof that the blitz rating of moron then
>is for 95% dependant upon its score against crafty instead of against
>'mean and rotten' humans.

Then don't play crafty.  That's easy to implement.


>
>At blitz you're allowing only: 3 2, 4 2, 5 2
>that's rather fast for humanity.
>

I play any computer over 2300 at those blitz times (excepting crafties).  I need
the increment since I don't yet have timestamp.  Moron doesn't allow computers
at all for blitz.  You say that mine is more restrictive??

I do notice that Moron plays computers at std, so I will have to adjust the std
list for "split" forumlas like yours.  Hadn't thought of that before.


>>>Now currently the vars of secret (diep linux not the newest version
>>>though but regurarly updated) is next:
>>>
>>>   formula = "autocolor & !freeweek & !wild &
>>>(rating>=2200+300*blitz|rating>=2300&time<=3&inc=0) &
>>>((time<=5&inc<=3)|(standard&etime<=60)) & (!computer | unrated)"
>>>   Channels: 64 194
>>>   interface="xboard 4.0.3 + diep"
>>>
>>>So basically playing all players above 2500 at blitz if not a computer.
>>>I wonder why neither Moron nor Secret is in the list of Will.
>>>Comments will? Has it to do with the fact that both are dual machines?
>>
>>
>>Secret isn't included because of the !computer, and also because this account
>>tends to change programs.  Dual machines are ok.
>
>that's not true anymore. Last months it didn't switch and in the
>foreseeable future it won't either.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>I mean: Judgeturpin is a 266PII getting 5 ply sometimes 6 ply in blitz.
>>>Hard to take ratings based upon a 5 or 6 ply serious!
>>
>>Playing against JT regularly, I notice it gets 8 ply in most situations.  Sweeny
>>has said that it will very infrequently limit itself to 6 ply, but indicates
>>that this seems like a bug, and it doesn't do well when that happens.
>
>This is the wrong approach. Sure it gets 8 ply in most endgames or more.
>However if you get say 10 moves after each other 6 ply in the middlegame,
>then i'm not happy.
>
>Chess is a game of weakest chain. If you get 6 ply when tactics are
>most needed, then you're smoked usual.
>
>I only look to the depths diep gets at crucial (tactical) moments.
>Sure if a move is predicted and a recapture it's a lot easier to get
>deep...
>

Well, if it's any consolation, my program rarely gets more than 6 ply in the
middlegame at blitz time controls.  I get killed all the time tactically.

Will



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