Author: Jeroen van Dorp
Date: 13:17:54 12/01/99
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I don't understand. Let me think out aloud. Correct me if I'm wrong. Does your post say the following: "Hi, I'm (Robert or whoever) and I have serious doubts about claims of weaker players beating top chess programs. Because these programs play at master or even at GM strenght, it's very hard to beat these programs at top strength. Maybe it's possible to win an accidental game out of very many, but even then I suspect a glitch, and can hardly believe you could reproduce that win. Computer programs are so much more consistant than human players, that I have serious doubts about supposed "weak moments". Main reasons to back up my doubts about those claims are: - it often happens: a loose statement posted here without the backup of a real game played between that player and that particular program; no evidence, no proof, no need to post your claim. - *if* these games are posted, I can not reproduce (all) moves of the chess engine mentioned - at the time controls supplied, and on that specific hardware. So I suspect a weaker engine setting, or other deliberate tweaking. - if I can reproduce them with my own copy of that program, I observe a lot of moves played by the other side (the average chess player) which I could reproduce with the chess engine. Because that hit is over 95% of the moves I suspect computer assistance. That's not my definition of "I beated the computer" . In that case the computer beated itself. Here you find a game to underline my statements. I'm very curious if other people have arguments against this." Or maybe Robert I'm wrong, and you didn't think that way, then my apologies, but I supposed those were your motives. And if you do, I (Jeroen, that is) fully agree with you, and would add that there is no use to post phoney games on this BB between humans and computers. I, We, like to see games that point out weaknesses of computer engines. I like to reproduce those games and add theses themes to my anti-computer database. Thx. Jeroen ;-}
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