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Subject: Re: Rebel Shows GM strength once AGAIN(draws Baburin)

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 23:26:00 12/05/99

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On December 05, 1999 at 18:32:19, James Robertson wrote:

>On December 05, 1999 at 05:06:57, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>If your program can play for about 2500 in match-play it should probably play
>>about 2600 in tournaments and this is the usual way to achieve an established
>>rating. Humans play probably around 75-125 elo lower during a tournament,
>
>There is no way to see if humans are playing 75-125 ELO lower in a tournament
>because you can't play a tournament and a match at the same time and compare the
>results. Humans may get tired after 7 rounds, but then they would get tired in a
>match too. DB-Kasparov match #1 didn't seem to show this trend, though. And
>Fritz lost more points in the last half of Frankfurt than in the first half. :)
>
>In other words, all this is conjecture and [maybe] wishful thinking on the part
>of us programmers.
>
>James
>

Hi!

Extremely strange conclusions from you, the Rebel test is so far single games
compared to a normal tournament of say 9 to 13 rounds. It´s well known that
players often are tired in the later rounds and sometimes do horrible mistakes.
That´s not a big problem in the same pool of tired players but I guess it
shouldn´t affect a program.

Regards Bertil


>>because they can´t prepare as much and are much more tired in round seven than
>>during the first round. Increments is also a very big advantage for the human.
>>During this Internet-play, the human have double increments because of the slow
>>transmission of moves. If Baburin had been in the serious time-trouble (against
>>a computer)he was, during a normal game he had probably lost.
>>
>>Regards Bertil
>
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