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Subject: Re: Poll Question - Tournaments vs Matches

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 04:32:03 01/06/00

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On January 06, 2000 at 05:30:55, Graham Laight wrote:

>* In the case of Crafty, maybe it really isn't at GM level - or maybe Bob is
>demoralised by the number of times it's been beaten on the ICC, forgetting that
>that the ICC conditions, while useful for research, are not truly representative
>of tournament chess conditions

Probably even more important in Bob's case is that he has always wanted to
strongly promote the idea that multi-processor computers are massively stronger
than (single processor) PCs. It would be a blow to his esteem if it was proven
beyond all possible doubt that PCs had attained a GM level of play!

>* In the case of Ed Schroeder, I think he suffers from low self esteem. He seems
>to have developed a fear of competition. Also, maybe the long years of

Actually, I'm not really sure whether Ed has low self esteem, but in the past he
has certainly avoided competitions. If he'd gone to the '97 WMCCC in Paris, I
would have been able to meet him in person, as I did many other programmers, +
legends like David Levy.

-g

>proclaiming great results, only to be knocked back down by a humiliating defeat
>at the hands of a GM have created within him an automatic reaction of excessive
>modesty when asked about his programs relative to strong human players

>* In general, every programmer who has spoken to "positional" IMs and above will
>have heard expressions like, "What a terrible move that was positionally".
>Certainly many GMs said that many times about DB during its successful match
>with GK in '97. But DB still "brought home the bacon".
>
>* Chess programmers are often timid people, who prefer to have other people heap
>credit on them, rather than shouting out their achievements for themselves
>
>* For so long, computers have been worse than GMs, and GMs emphasise the
>computers' weaknesses so strongly, that it is easy to see how, in the absence of
>truly compelling, utterly indisputable evidence, most people could easily miss
>the moment when the computers really do reach the GM level. Think about this: it
>is conspicuously clear that the vast majority of Wall St traders miss the
>moments when the market's primary trend turns up or down sharply - it's almost a
>truism by definition!
>
>But if Bob Hyatt wants to laugh, I say "go ahead" - laughter is known to be good
>for your health!
>
>-g



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