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Subject: Re: Poll Question - Tournaments vs Matches

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 06:02:51 01/06/00

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On January 05, 2000 at 16:36:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 05, 2000 at 15:11:43, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>Your opinion is valued.  :)
>>
>>Take a look at some of the tournament performance
>>ratings (TPR) of some of the programs (Genius, Junior, Rebel,
>>Tiger, Hiarcs, and others).  See the computer resource center,
>>rebel web page, Gambit Soft tournaments page and U pitt.  Take
>>a look a the AEGON and other events.  Also take a look at the
>>ratings on ICC.  Top programs have high ratings there.  :)
>>
>>Be prepared to be shocked.  Sometimes the programs have high
>>TPR's (above SSDF ratings).  Critics call these an aberation.
>>Sometimes the programs have lower than SSDF ratings.  Critics
>>call this the norm.  I think both are expected and normal,
>>just as human ratings fluctuate within expected norms.  :)
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>
>This is bad statistical methodology however.  If you pick any program of your
>choice from Aegon, I will pick one to offset it.  For any 2600TPR you find, I
>will find one with a 2200 TPR.  That is the problem.  Statistics looks at the
>averages, not at individual data points.  And the average is way below 2600.
>
>As far as ICC goes, Crafty has been over 3250 there.  I doubt it would have a
>prayer in hell of doing that in FIDE events, running on a T932 even.

Bob,

You make some good points (as always).  :)

My point was that a 2600 TPR can be found (and I am not surprised based on
SSDF ratings given 95% or 99.7% confidence levels) for some programs.
I agree that 2200 TPR's can also be found.  :)  I consider both ends of
the spread valid for the programs associated with the numbers.  :)

I think we agree.  :)

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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