Author: Albert Silver
Date: 08:37:03 01/14/00
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On January 14, 2000 at 10:17:58, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>On January 14, 2000 at 09:58:33, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>That's not really the point. I'm not speaking of free speech here, but the
>>nature and purpose of the forum.
>
>computerchess. say things other people would censor out.
>write about different approaches.
>different ideas.
>go different ways.
>not censor or ban people who have different strategies or
>don't want to follow the path of a fast-searcher.
>You will see "the sense" IMO later.
>its only the beginning.
>also see: he is doing shogi and go and backgammon and other stuff too.
>so whats wrong with this.
When did I say there was? I was commenting on what I saw upon entering the
"Intelligent Chess" forum.
> in a few years chess/human
>is uninteresting because no human beeing anymore wins.
>than we all have to change to shogi or go.
>chris is only a few years earlier.
>
>we will still let the chess-programs fight each other.
>but . but we are crazy freaks.
>
>
>>Plausible, but given the rest, I don't believe it. Maybe he should start a "I
>>hate CCC!" homepage. Now THAT would be productive!
>
>i don't see chris as HATING or UNPRODUCTIVE.
I never said he was unproductive, I said these threads he started are
unproductive. You announced his new forum and I went there and saw the
predominant theme: CCC sucks! Hardly an auspicious beginning if it's all about
computer chess and NOT about CCC.
> in fact he is very
>productive when he is in his manic mood.
>he often has sent me 2 versions a day. and they all played different
>and some where really good. this way CSTAL 2.03 has been made.
>so why do you see chris negatively only ?
>hm. strange.
Only your interpretation of what I wrote.
>he inspires me often with his different point of views.
>
>
>>Right, wrong, that's irrelevant. Why would I want to hang out in a forum whose
>>purpose is to attack ANOTHER forum? I can hardly think of a bigger waste of my
>>time.
>
>nonsense. this forum has not the reason to attack other forums.
>thats nonsense. he is telling his opinion. thats ok.
>he can do so. its his forum. so he can do so.
I agree. He started the forum and can write what he pleases, but doing so he
also sets the tone. I saw the tone, and it looked like it was an excuse to
gather an audience to hear him rant about CCC. I dearly hope I'm wrong, but this
is what I was greeted with, and these were the conclusions it led me to.
>you maybe want to read the computerchess stuff.
Yes. Maybe. Maybe that's what I hoped to find there. Just maybe.
>i am getting many requests for people who want to come in.
>so later maybe when more people post, there will be traffic too.
>who knows.
So the answer is to wait for others to write about computer chess?
>
>>Wins?? Wins what? What could Chris possibly 'win' from this? CCC at it's worst
>>is innocuous, so we're not exactly talking about a fight against the Klu Klux
>>Klan here. I cannot imagine myself spending so much time stalking and attacking
>>people I do not like.
>
>he does other things. in fact. i know it. i do test this other things.
>believe me. he can produce more things in 5 minutes than you can
>write bullshit about. he has 6 children. how much do you have ?
>:-))
*sigh* If this is just some pissing contest, count me out. When I am civil with
someone, I expect that courtesy to be reciprocal.
Albert Silver
>
>> Talk, discuss, reason if you like, but creating a forum
>>and then starting a number of threads on how bad the OTHER forum is? What utter
>>rubbish!
>
>whatever you want.
>i don't want to convince you.
>
>believe what you want to.
>
>as long as bill gates wants, this is a free world.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Why waste so much energy and
>>>>time on something that is supposedly regarded with such derision?
>>>
>>>???
>>>
>>>nonsense.
>>>
>>>> Was the
>>>>feeling of betrayal so deep? Make peace or move on Chris, but this? This is the
>>>>ex-boyfriend out to get 'even' with his ex-girlfriend no matter the cost.
>>>
>>>???
>>>and ?
>>>its straight.
>>>he is not wished here, so he makes his own-.
>>>thats a very normal human behaviour.
>>>remember captain kirk always NOT doing what star fleet told
>>>him, and spock+mc_coy/bones and scotty, always at his side.
>>>
>>>this is not a boyfriend story, or of ex, this is friendship. or ?
>>>or what is the reason mc_coy/bones /spock and kirk be together ?
>>
>>Sorry, you lost me with all the Star Trek talk. I understood the part about
>>creating a place where he is eminently welcome, was that your point?
>>
>> Albert Silver
>>
>>Peace and love, Thorsten. :-)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What
>>>>next? Pamphlets? Magazines? TV spots denouncing the evil CCC? *Sigh*
>>>
>>>no - even more books by shatner of course. How captain kirk is doing it
>>>again. and spock ? he is vulcan. don't forget. he lives longer.
>>>maybe longer then you.
>>>
>>>Live long and prosper Albert.
>>>
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