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Subject: Re: Where is the new 64 bits chip?

Author: leonid

Date: 08:18:23 01/20/00

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On January 20, 2000 at 09:27:06, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>All of the information you are requesting is well-known and posted on many web
>sites.
>
>The Alpha is a 64-bit chip and it has been around since the dawn of time. 1991
>or so, if memory serves.
>
>Every major RISC chip vendor has made 64-bit versions of their chips. The ones
>that come to mind are the HP-PA 8000, the UltraSparc, and certain MIPS chips (I
>think).
>
>AMD is expected to release a chip in 2001 that uses a 64-bit version of the x86
>instruction set.
>
>Intel's 64-bit chip, the Itanium (formerly known as Merced), is an engineering
>travesty. It was supposed to be released in 1997, but there's no way it will be
>released before October 2000 (and it might be delayed again). Prototypes were
>distributed last month, but only a few. For example, Microsoft only has 1. (!!)
>The prototypes can only run at ~400MHz, too, for reasons that aren't clear. The
>chip is so huge that it can't even be made with a 0.25 micron process. That
>means it needs an amazing amount of power, produces an amazing amount of heat,
>and costs as much as a small island.


Very, very sad indeed! I expected that Intel will be pushed by AMD advance but
this never happened. Before wanted to wait until the 64 bits chip before
finalising my game on a new base, but now I am not sure. Too long to wait. And
if the Intel says that it will produced its chip since already 1997... He can
fail even this time.

Will go to see the address that you indicated below. Thanks! Was interesting to
read about some computers that I hardly know. I know mainly widely used PC.

Leonid.




>Compaq has posted a paper explaining why the Alpha is superior to the Itanium:
>http://www.digital.com/hpc/ref/ref_alpha_ia64.pdf
>They have me convinced...
>
>Anyway, the performance increase you can get from a 64-bit chip depends entirely
>on how many of your algorithms are 64-bit.
>
>-Tom
>
>
>On January 20, 2000 at 08:34:52, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hello!
>>
>>Where is the new 64 bits chip?
>>
>>I waited for the new 64 bits chip in 1999 - it never came. Feel me impatient in
>>2000 but found no noises about it in the new computer revue that I bought. Can't
>>wait any more quietly since I expect to rewrite my chess logic for 64 bits
>>machine and gain a lot of new speed. If you know somehow about the 64 bits chip,
>>that will be done by Intel or other company, please say what you found about new
>>chip.
>>
>>If you want to say your opinion about what is realistic to expect from the next
>>64 bits "gold rash", you are welcome. Maybe what should be your expectation that
>>next chess game will be able to perform in the nodes/second rate. How many plies
>>new chess game will be able to see in the time between 1 and 10 seconds, if it
>>will be looking for response by simple brute force logic. Or just whatere you
>>find interesting to mention about above topic.
>>
>>Thanks for responding!
>>Leonid.



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