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Subject: Re: DT and DB (prototype) vs Computers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:58:23 01/24/00

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On January 24, 2000 at 15:05:18, Chris Carson wrote:

>On January 24, 2000 at 12:10:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>
>>I don't understand your last column.  What does it mean.  IE you have
>>data for that after one game...  which would be impossible if it means
>>TPR over last 25 games...  IE rebel lost the first game it played in your
>>list, yet the 25 game TPR is 2546... so I assume I am not understanding
>>your chart.
>
>The TPR has been calculated and posted in a different post.  If you
>want to see the TPR on hardware, see the other post.  I have posted
>these games several times now, they are 40/2 and 40/90 +30 sec/move.
>Accepted by USCF and FIDE as "regular".
>
>I noticed that the DT games include G/30 and G/60 and G/90.  USCF
>accepts these as "regular" but I have not included any for Rebel
>at those time controls yet (I have them and the ratings go up fast).
>
>Averages are base on 25 games, so take the fist and add the next
>24 to them.
>
>Question:  Why do you include G/30, G/60, G/90 for DT, but
>do not include them for micros.  If those are not the correct
>games then post, these are the games for DT from the source you
>referred to.
>
>Where is the url, I never saw it.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson


I don't.  The DT games used for the fredkin prize didn't include any game/30
games.  At the time (1995 and before) I don't know of any major tournaments
that were using anything other than 40/2 for the open sections... IE the world
open, the US Open, Software Toolworks, etc.  DT played matches, but I don't
believe that USCF ever rated computer matches, according to their policies on
computer members, to avoid some obvious rating mischief by humans or computers.

I am only (personally) interested in 40/2 type time controls.  I have long since
said that at game/30 computers are very tough even against GM players.  I've
played many of those in formal and informal matches.  And see how my program has
done.  40/2 is something else.

I'll see if it is possible to get accurate data from the USCF on the games
DT played to see what was included in the rating...  "tournaments" were
probably in there, but matches were not, and it played a fair number of matches
that were just exhibitions.



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