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Subject: Re: New SSDF-list!!!

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 18:39:16 01/30/00

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On January 30, 2000 at 18:36:48, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On January 30, 2000 at 15:23:57, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2000 at 13:36:38, Hans Christian Lykke wrote:
>>
>>>-  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>   1 Junior 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2706   38   -35   403   70%  2556
>>>   2 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2682   37   -35   414   67%  2555
>>>   3 Nimzo 7.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2661   36   -34   420   68%  2530
>>>   4 Fritz 5.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2659   34   -32   474   65%  2548
>>>   5 Junior 5.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2629   35   -33   438   63%  2532
>>>   6 Nimzo 99  128MB K6-2 450 MHz            2627   44   -42   278   64%  2526
>>>   7 Hiarcs 7.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz         2624   40   -38   347   66%  2505
>>>   8 Chessmaster 6000  64MB P200 MMX         2574   61   -53   184   76%  2378
>>>   9 Hiarcs 7.32  64MB P200 MMX              2573   27   -26   720   62%  2488
>>>   9 Fritz 5.32  64MB P200 MMX               2573   23   -22   986   59%  2510
>>>  11 Hiarcs 7.0  64MB P200 MMX               2561   23   -23   922   59%  2499
>>>  12 Fritz 5.0 PB29%  67MB P200 MMX          2560   23   -22  1005   66%  2443
>>>  13 Nimzo 99  64MB P200 MMX                 2550   26   -25   749   54%  2523
>>>  14 Junior 5.0  64MB P200 MMX               2535   24   -24   824   54%  2506
>>>  15 Nimzo 98  58MB P200 MMX                 2526   22   -22  1038   58%  2469
>>>  16 Rebel 9.0  47MB P200 MMX                2521   24   -23   900   61%  2442
>>>  17 Hiarcs 6.0  49MB P200 MMX               2518   24   -24   829   56%  2474
>>>  18 Rebel 8.0  51MB P200 MMX                2513   25   -25   773   53%  2490
>>>  19 MChess Pro 6.0  41MB P200 MMX           2503   28   -27   643   57%  2453
>>>  20 Shredder 2.0  58MB P200 MMX             2498   23   -22   958   51%  2491
>>>  21 MChess Pro 7.1  46MB P200 MMX           2496   22   -22  1042   53%  2473
>>>  22 Genius 5.0 DOS  46MB P200 MMX           2493   22   -21  1045   53%  2471
>>>  23 MChess Pro 8.0  64MB P200 MMX           2492   27   -27   681   53%  2468
>>>  24 Chess Tiger 11.8  Pentium 90 MHz        2483   50   -49   202   54%  2455
>>>  25 Gandalf 3.0  64MB P200 MMX              2465   41   -40   307   59%  2397
>>>  26 Kallisto II  64MB P200 MMX              2443   35   -35   403   52%  2428
>>>  27 Rebel 9.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2436   23   -23   890   47%  2457
>>>  28 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2433   18   -18  1437   51%  2429
>>>  29 Genius 5.0 DOS Pentium 90 MHz           2430   18   -18  1558   47%  2449
>>>  30 MChess Pro 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2410   17   -17  1726   45%  2444
>>>  31 Nimzo 3.5 Pentium 90 MHz                2393   22   -22   998   46%  2423
>>>  32 Junior 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2388   22   -22  1035   42%  2442
>>>  33 Chessmaster 5000 Pentium 90 MHz         2387   49   -45   240   67%  2262
>>>  34 Shredder 1.0 Pentium 90 MHz             2383   59   -58   145   53%  2363
>>>  35 R30 v. 2.5                              2370   43   -40   303   66%  2255
>>>  36 CometA90  64MB P200 MMX                 2352   37   -39   358   36%  2451
>>>  37 Fritz 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2334   40   -39   324   60%  2263
>>>  38 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz              2331   20   -20  1222   39%  2409
>>>  39 Kallisto 1.98 Pentium 90 MHz            2326   21   -22  1049   42%  2384
>>>  40 Meph Genius 68 030 33 MHz               2298   45   -44   248   55%  2260
>>>  41 Rebel Decade Pentium 90 MHz             2275   29   -30   563   45%  2312
>>>  42 Meph RISC 2   1 MB                      2225   62   -66   125   39%  2306
>>>  42 Berlin Pro 68 020 24 MHz                2225   24   -24   850   58%  2171
>>>  44 Comet32 Pentium 90 MHz                  2201   24   -25   991   24%  2405
>>>  45 Mephisto Montreux ARM  14 MHz 512K      2200   30   -28   669   73%  2025
>>>  46 Atlanta    SH7000 20 MHz                2192   35   -33   448   68%  2057
>>>  47 Sapphire II                             2113   35   -33   444   63%  2017
>>>  48 Novag Sapphire H8 10 MHz                2090   22   -22  1014   47%  2108
>>>  49 Milano Pro  SH7000 20 MHz               2075   34   -33   449   62%  1987
>>>  50 Gandalf 2.1 Pentium 90 MHz              2037   46   -51   242   27%  2212
>>>
>>>
>>> 1 Junior 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz, 2706
>>>Ch.Ti12 K6450   24.5-17.5  Nimz732 K6450    5.5-2.5   Frit532 K6450   20.5-21.5
>>>Hiar732 K6450    1.5-0.5   Fritz532 P200     29-11    Fritz 5 P200X      3-1
>>>Nimzo99 P200X   29.5-10.5  Junior5 P200X     33-9     Nimzo98 P200X      6-1
>>>190  P200MMX    31.5-9.5   194  P200MMX      27-14    Rebel 8 P200X   12.5-5.5
>>>MCP 6 P200MMX      5-1     Shred 2 P200X     20-6     Genius5 P200X     19-3
>>>193  P200MMX      12-4     CM30 King 2.0    3.5-2.5
>>>
>>>
>>>The first new program during 2000 is Amir Bans and Shay Bushinskys
>>>Junior 6.0 K6-2 450 MHz. Junior 6.0 immediately took the first place
>>>with 2706 after 403 tournament games! This is 77 points more than
>>>Junior 5.0 has on the same hardware! It's fascinating that it
>>>still is possible to increase the playing strength of chess
>>>programs, measured in the way SSDF does.
>>
>>
>>Congratulations to Amir and Shay.
>
>Chris your prediction to me that Tiger will be on top of the SSDF for a while to
>come lasted only 1 list, what will you do to combat this new power on top.



It's done already. The Rebel-Tiger is significantly stronger than Chess Tiger
DOS, because:
1) it runs faster
2) you can change 2 parameters and get a stronger engine
3) it can use more hash tables

We estimate the difference in playing strength to be 20-25 elo points above
Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS.

Further, the "accident" of repeated losses will be fixed very soon by a patch we
are going to publish.

So all that is needed is that the SSDF guys drop Chess Tiger DOS and start
testing the Rebel-Tiger instead.

I cannot be sure the Rebel-Tiger would be on top again, but I am sure it plays
significantly better. So...




>At least CM6K still remains on top of the 200MMX machines, But I still do not
>like the list without CM6K being tested on the fater hardware.


CM6K remains on top of the P200MMX list because neither Rebel-Tiger nor Junior 6
have been tested on P200MMX. Just my opinion of course. I hope the SSDF will
test them on P200MMX, not only on K6-450.



    Christophe



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