Author: Jeremiah Penery
Date: 23:36:19 01/31/00
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On February 01, 2000 at 02:33:06, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >On February 01, 2000 at 02:30:27, Tom Kerrigan wrote: > >>On February 01, 2000 at 02:22:09, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >> >>>On February 01, 2000 at 01:47:19, David Blackman wrote: >>> >>>>On January 31, 2000 at 12:32:28, Dan Andersson wrote: >>>> >>>>>The link http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20000128S0008 describes briefly a DSP >>>>>on a memory chip. DSPs might still rule the world! If they wern't so dang hard >>>>>to use. >>>>> >>>>>Regards Dan Andersson >>>> >>>>Has anyone written a chess program that spends 95% of it's time doing long >>>>vector dot products? (Mine certainly doesn't.) If so it should really fly on a >>>>DSP chip. Actually, if the low-latency lookup tables were RAM instead of the sin >>>>and cos lookup ROM that most DSPs have, then i think you could just about do a >>>>fast, smart static eval function on a DSP. >>>> >>>>Another piece of fast hardware that is already installed in many PCs is the 3D >>>>graphics card. For a few hundred dollars you can get one that does many >>>>GigaFlops, as long as what you want to do is render textured triangles. If you >>>>design the textures really carefully, and line up multiple overlapping textured >>>>triangles just right, maybe you could get it to do chess move generation and >>>>eval really fast. But it wouldn't be easy. >>> >>>There are a bunch of other things these things can do: texture effects, bump >>>mapping, z-buffering, bi-linear filtering, lighting/shading effects, etc. >>>A lot of the new cards also have lots of memory (up to 64MB) - Hash tables! >>> >>>I think it would be really cool if someone could figure out how to make a chess >>>program using this stuff. :) I suspect it would have to communicate directly >>>with the main CPU to do some stuff, and it could also use the main system >>>memory. Perhaps the 3D card could handle move generation and evaluation, and >>>the main CPU could handle the rest... >>> >>>Jeremiah :)) >> >>DSP, graphics chip... you guys need to get the hard drive controller in on this, >>too. > >I don't think it does enough FLOPS. :) But maybe the sound card would work... I know some of them now have quite some processing power. The EMU401K chip on the SBLive! I think can be reprogrammed from software to do a bunch of stuff. With all the stuff it already does, perhaps it would make a nice addition to the "Use your _whole_ computer to play chess" project. :))
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