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Subject: Re: Recommended version of Visual C++?

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 17:08:23 02/01/00

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On February 01, 2000 at 18:20:03, Dan Newman wrote:

>On February 01, 2000 at 13:25:34, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2000 at 12:22:02, Mike Carter wrote:
>>
>>>I started writing a Visual Basic chess program but have decided to migrate to
>>>C++.  Checking out Microsoft compilers, the Enterprise version of 6.0 seems to
>>>be overkill (and at $1300 out of price range!).  Microsoft's Standard version of
>>>C++ 6.0 is about $100 and the Professional version is $550.  Assuming I'm using
>>>this to write chess code exclusively, is the extra $450 justified to move up to
>>>Professional?  Or is another company (e.g. Borland) a better choice/value? (If
>>>it matters, I have a Pentium II 400 MHz with 128Mb RAM and would eventually like
>>>to port the program to WinBoard).  Many thanks in advance for your opinion!
>>>
>>>Mike Carter  (MrMike on ICC)
>>>mcarter@tdi.net
>>
>>I have recently been in contact with someone who owns the "standard" edition.
>>I'm not 100% certain, but it seems that this edition does NOT do optimizations.
>>
>>A compiler that does not do optimizations is a waste of money, because you can
>>get GCC for free, and it does a respectable job of optimizing. VC does a better
>>job, but not $550 better... :)
>>
>>Actually, VC has a decent IDE and a pretty good online help system; this may be
>>worth $100 to you.
>>
>>I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this, but current Borland products are
>>crap. They produce slow programs, and the IDEs are poorly implemented and
>>totally bug-ridden. (To be fair, the last time I used a Borland compiler was 2
>>years ago, and the situation may have improved since then.)
>>
>>-Tom
>
>I (briefly) had the "standard" edition and returned it.  As I recall it did do
>optimizations, but it didn't give you any way to control them--other than
>on/off--which wasn't acceptable...  And it had no profiler...
>
>-Dan.

The profiler is not a good reason to buy any version of VC. It's an absolute
POS.

-Tom



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