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Subject: Re: WMCCC

Author: Michael Borgstaedt (GOLIATH CHESS)

Date: 05:20:53 10/05/97

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> How can anybody know about source-code of other people ?
> But we have suspicion because of the fact that they tried to release
> Goliath comercially in germany. Many people ordered Goliath although
> there was never a program released.

The program was announced to be available in March/April 1997, but
was delayed due to problems (e.g. copyright, - visit our homepage for
till two weeks ago ! Now, we have given sale and service to a german

> But this is data Gambit can write books about...
>  It is well known to any german gambit-soft customers cause Berthold
> Seifriz from Gambit soft opened his correspondance with Borgstaedt and
> put it on the server.

Yes, and some of the published correspondence was not written by me!
It seems to me that Gambit-Soft started a "campaign" against Goliath,
because he was perhaps angry about the delay.
Now my lawyer is checking the situation and I think that we will go to
court to finish this "shit".

> The customers felt betrayed cause they have ordered and paid for a
> program that was not existing ! Anybody was angry.

I have got not more than 10 direct orders with advance payment. Not all
was refunded, cause some customers confirmed to wait for the program.
If you have informations about paying to delears, please contact
me (private email please).
In March 1997 more than 12 german companies were advertising Goliath.
To most of them, we haven't had any contact up to that time. Only two of
the companies had ordered the program.
Look at "Schachversand West" company for example: Never contacted, no
from us, no informations, no permission to advertise Goliath. But they
are offering the program at dumping-level.
I'm wondering what's going on.

> Goliath exists. I have a copy. It looks like Turbochess from the screen
> and is a text-engine. I had email-correspondance with Borgstaedt.
> But I was impossible to find out about this program in general. There
> is something strange with the program or the persons behind.
> The program plays weak, and i cannot believe that anybody would buy
> this text-engine...

No!! You have a copy of the beta-engine, not more. This was a
reg. the new selective search technique and includes only minimized
knowledge. Please check the correspondance and readme-file before
publishing negative informations.
Of course, Goliath comes with an up-to-date Windows-Interface !
Seems it is time to release a demo-version. I'm very busy (WMCCC),
but will place screenshots and demos on our homepages next week!
Check it!

Yes ! There was something strange with the persons behind!
But these persons don't belong any longer to the Goliath-team, cause
they were the reason for many problems and 7 months delay.
Now, only Mr. Fischer and I are programming Goliath, supported by
a strong International masters (opening book).

Best regards,

M. Borgstaedt

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