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Subject: Re: WMCCC Hardware

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 01:37:02 10/18/97

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On October 17, 1997 at 23:21:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 17, 1997 at 18:23:47, Amir Ban wrote:

>>What do I suggest ? When the ICCA polled about the WMCCC invitations I
>>suggested that the rules will contain a mild deterrent: Have anyone who
>>brings his own machine, and can run on the supplied hardware, pay a fee
>>for entering external hardware. Nothing too high. If this does not deter
>>many, at least it will generate some revenue for the ICCA, and we may
>>not have to see the ridiculous sight of "professionals" staying out
>>because they cannot afford the entry fee while "amateurs" haul custom
>>machines halfway around the world.
>this "deterrent" is a stupid idea.  Just as the fee for commercial
>is a stupid idea.  The idea is *not* to deter, but to encourage
>The very concept of "a deterrent" leaves a foul taste with me.  Why
>would we
>want to deter *anyone* from competing?

Not trying to deter anyone from competing, just trying to protect the
interests of the real amateurs between us (I'll probably exclude myself)
who may be the most talented programmers in the world for all we know
and had done their best to bring a great program. Nobody told them this
was not the issue. Also want to reassure those who read the clause about
"generally available single processor" and thought to themselves that at
least they are in the same ballpark only to learn that there are some
tricks they hadn't heard of.

Not suggesting a PC event at all. SOS has always run on Sun. DarkThought
was born on Alpha. Let them bring their native machines with no penalty
(I would even consider supporting them to make the competition fair).
You make some case that Alpha is your natural environment. Fine. Bruce
has a much weaker argument. Guys who bring Pentium 120 to Pentium 90
events have no case at all and the ICCA should blast them, or at least
make them pay something so that Hiarcs may also have a chance to compete
once in a while.



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