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Subject: Re: Khalifman and Gelfand on computer

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 20:44:52 05/20/00

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On May 20, 2000 at 18:26:36, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 20, 2000 at 17:51:34, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>No, what you are suggesting is practically impossible. It's like asking a human
>>player to forget everything about the opening theory. You cannot be sure he will
>>obey, and there is no way to check.
>
>If you say so, I'll believe it even though I'm not entirely convinced.



Just ask other programmers what they think about this problem.




> It's not
>important since I don't advocate removing the opening book,



I wouldn't either.

The computers do not have the BOOKS when they participate. They just have
memorized opening theory in their BRAIN. That's exactly what a human player is
allowed to do.




> but just asking a
>question about possible lack of interest in promoting new ideas and replacing
>them with shortcuts and computer power.



Trying to get the best possible hardware has always been part of the "game" (the
part I don't like BTW).

But if you want to get an idea of progress in software, just take the best PC
program of 10 or 5 years ago and let it play against the current best PC
programs.

You'll realize how much software has improved.


However, restricting the hardware would be a good way, IMO, to promote new
ideas.

If it is not done, then in 5 years from now many amateur programs will be able
to defeat GMs, just because of increased computing power. A sure way to get
definitely banned from human competitions.


    Christophe



>>I have already suggested some time ago that the power of computers playing in
>>human tournaments should simply be limited.
>>
>>Restrictions on the number of processor(s), speed of processor, and total memory
>>size (including hard disk). And even restriction on the power consumption.
>>
>>This could maybe make the GMs less angry about computers, and boost the
>>programmer's creativity.
>>
>>If we do not do that, then
>>1) Programmers will simply work to stuff more processors into a PC box and make
>>them work together (and find a way to cool down the thing).
>>2) Computers will be banned from human tournaments.
>>
>>I don't really care about the restrictions, I'll follow them as soon as they are
>>applied to any computer opponent.
>
>I think we agree on almost all points. I'm pleased that programmers aren't as
>hardheaded as Uri suggests :o).
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens



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