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Subject: Universal protection and not only for computerchess people

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 05:56:58 06/21/00

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On June 20, 2000 at 23:19:30, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On June 20, 2000 at 06:07:35, Hans Gerber wrote:
>
>>My intention was not to stir the attention of the moderators to possibly
>>_remove_ your initial post but to show that it would have been a good thing if
>>they, the moderators, had said that the use of such a strong wording would not
>>be acceptable in this forum.
>
>I happened to read the post that I am now replying to, but I don't read all the
>posts -- and the other moderators don't read them all either.  If you read
>something here that you think shouldn't be present, please use the moderator
>email facility (a link to it is provided at the top of the page).



If it is a singular post, a singular term or a singular sender with something
that shouldn't be present then it is a practical solution to choose the direct
email facility to the moderators. However in this case where I discovered a
general tendency among computerchess people it is better to inform the public
directly. For the simple reason that all moderators belong to computerchess
themselves.

The tendency in question (scrupulous protection of computerchess persons against
any form of even positive critics while a more reluctant acceptance of any form
of sloppy comments against even the best chessplayers) is not to influence by
silent deletions but only by open mentioning and criticising the tendency
itself.

The main point for me is the tendency to accept the (justified!) exclusion of
most private details of life when computerchess people and their creations are
concerned while in the case of our best chessplayers and their personality
exactly most intimate details are openly discussed. It is apparent that the
general conviction among moderating people here does tolerate that major
contradiction.

Let me give just two examples. Several most prominent computerchess people
commented the event during the Dutch championship when Bosboom stopped playing
after less than 10 moves. Although it was apparent that Bosboom did _not_ behave
on a personal base (to speak it out, as if he suffered of some ideosyncrasies or
madness or not being man enough) his personal integrity was questioned.

In my special case and the debate about the details of the psychological
background of the match DB vs. Kasparov in 1997 (my only participation until
now) I could not freely demonstrate my theory about the required standards for
scientists without being insulted by my opponent  (of having the same mind, in
this case a very troubled mind of course, Kasparov allegedly had) and without
any objection by the moderators nor any commentary by members of CCC.

Moderation should protect _universally_ against insults and ad hominem attacks
if it happens in CCC. Otherwise there is no chance for real enjoyment IMO.


Hans Gerber








> If the
>moderator who looks at your email agrees that the content is objectionable, they
>might either remove the post and inform the post author of that, and ask them to
>modify their posting habits accordingly, or, for a borderline case, caution the
>original poster without removing the message.
>
>This web board is here for all of us to enjoy: reciprocally, each has a
>responsibility to do their part to help it function in a satisfactory manner.
>If you have a specific or general complaint, it is essentially your duty to
>bring it directly to the moderators' attention, and filling out a web form to do
>so is, I think, not an inconvenience.  While we cannot guarantee that everybody
>will be satisfied, we do do our best.
>
>Dave



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