Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 02:19:08 08/30/00
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Oh let's be real. Xinix couldn't even castle. Officially you have lost then, as it doesn't accept legal moves. Read my report instead of the reactions on the report to see what i wrote about Diep-Xinix. Yet in 90% of the cases you still win as being commercial. Only very seldom in 10% of the remaining cases you draw. Even with e1Q in our game it would not have been that simple to draw it. On August 30, 2000 at 02:55:26, Tony Werten wrote: >On August 29, 2000 at 13:26:36, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On August 29, 2000 at 12:21:16, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I think that the pairing in the last round was fair because >>>zchess had weaker opponents than Sos(even after the last round I found that Sos >>>had a better opponents score. >>> >>>The sum of Sos opponent score is 39.5 when the sum of zchess oppont score was >>>only 36. >> >>This is all peanuts compared to playing for the world title. Note >>that SOP is not a real fair comparision measure. It's just a method. >>It doesn't say much significant. >> >>The most significant thing is how many points you have. what they did now >>was pairing zchess against shredder and giving SOS a free point. >> >>If zchess would win against shredder then it would not get the >>amateur title but the overall title as well IMHO. >> >>Before the 8th round you don't know anything about who you play in >>the 9th round when your name is SOS and zchess. SOS was lucky to have >>a few SOP more. The pairing IS ridicioulous considering that it was >>changed the rounds before that in favour of junior for simpel reasons. >> >>Now we don't know who is better. SOS or Zchess? >> >>THEY DIDN'T PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >>>Zchess cannot complain about unjustice in the pairing. >> >>The whole pairing was changed because of AMIRs fear for SOP. Now the last >>round SOS gets the world title for free, the rest simply doesn't >>count. > >Very friendly of you. As I remember you had enough problems scoring a point >against XiniX, so did Chess Tiger. > >Furthermore, ZChess had played XiniX before, you didn't complain. SOS had played >Shredder before, you didn't complain. > >When going into the last round, even with SOS playing me, he still had more >resistance points than ZChess. That means he scored the same amount of points as >ZChess and did it against tougher opponents. > >In the end, he scored more points against tougher opposisition. He deserved to >finish above ZChess. > >Tony > >> >>So let's face it: >> >>Both zchess and insomniac were hurt by this. Note that with either pairing >>Insomniac would make a pretty small chance. >> >>it had 0.5 points less so the most achievable would be a match >>versus the other program with 5 points. >> >>What is fairer as PLAYING for the world title? I mean both had 4.5 >>points. Winner has world title. If draw then 2 programs are tied to >>play another game. Possibly Insomniac might join that. >> >>>The program that can complain about unjustice not because of the pairing is >>>insomniac that is the real amatuer world champion. >> >>>Sos is sold as part of the young talent and by definition is a professional >>>program. >> >>I'm sure that Rudolf didn't get rich by this deal. >> >>paying 250 is a bloody shame anyway. It's a way too high entry fee. >>Not to mention 500. Why pay 500? Let them be happy that there are >>commercials playing! >> >>Just the FACT that you create conditions which give persons reasons to >>NOT join, like Johan de Koning, that's bad. >> >>Johan de Koning WAS in london by the way. He joined a different computer >>game. Let's not give him a SINGLE reason to not join. >> >>He has one now. >> >>The entry fee is ridicioulous. They didn't even have an internet >>connection where they neded to pay for. Basically a few power cables >>was all what was needed and a small place in the hall. The price for >>making a small board mentionning : "WMCC" they didn't even make. >> >>>Chessbase could do it amatuer by not selling it before the WMCCC but they did >>>not do it. >> >>Oh well when chessbase can make some money i'm sure they don't care that >>Rudolf might possibly pay more money entry fee. That's not exactly >>chessbase style. Ask them how 'well' they cared for Frans Morsch, Alex Kure >>and Amir Ban. >> >>>Uri
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