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Subject: Re: Good Test Position, the "ply 16 rook sac"

Author: John Merlino

Date: 21:48:00 09/20/00

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On September 20, 2000 at 14:31:25, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 20, 2000 at 14:12:25, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On September 20, 2000 at 13:18:20, James wrote:
>>
>>>This position turns out to be an excellent comparitor ofd chessmaster versions.
>>>My puter is 733 Piii, not overclocked with 512 meg of ram. Tested cm55 and cm6k
>>>using cm default but with select 10, and ttables set to 30. results:
>>>cm55 found mate in 14 at 33 min 45 seconds < about 20 sec into ply 13> and at 20
>>>seconds into ply 13, cm6k still found m n 16 at 58 minutes and 45 seconds.
>>>  My play formula on cm55 found it in 31 min and 30 seconds. Am sure other
>>>programs could see it faster, if anyone does any comparitive tests on their
>>>system, would be interested in the results.  IF cm8000 is as efficient as cm55,
>>>and has 12 ply selectivity, it could maybe see it in 10 minutes or so i think.
>>>  This position seems to be another that begs the question : what is a ply : ?
>>
>>What is the position? I can test it on a Beta build of CM8000....
>>
>>jm
>
>[D]2r3kr/5pp1/7p/3PQRb1/ppq1B3/8/PPP3PP/1K1R4 w
>
>chessmaster6000(ss=10) found mate in 20 at depth 2/12,mate in 14 at depth 5/15
>and mate in 13 at depth 6/16
>
>Uri

As promised....

A beta build of Chessmaster 8000, running on my PIII-600, with only 128 MB RAM,
and only a 1MB hash table, BUT with SS=12, announced mate in 23 after 39 minutes
and 57 seconds. The announcement came at depth 13, after 258,350,432 positions
had been seen (just under 108,000 positions/second).

Admittedly, this test is not terribly useful if you are trying to compare
results with YOUR testing, because of machine and some settings differences (and
also because I had to actually WORK and couldn't leave the machine idle for some
of the time).

I'll try running another test overnight, with a 32MB hash table (the most I can
afford on my machine).

However, there you are....

jm



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