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Subject: Re: Rebel 11 Package: Price, for God sake...

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 23:04:08 10/10/00

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On October 11, 2000 at 00:12:03, Ratko V Tomic wrote:

>> On the REBEL 11 CD you have:
>>  * Rebel Century 3.0 (DOS)
>>  * Chess Tiger 13.0 (Windows)
>>  * Gambit Tiger 1.0 (Windows)
>>  * Rebel as an analysis engine for Chess Tiger and Gambit Tiger (Windows)
>>
>> This is the first time ever a native Windows Rebel engine is released.
>
>Now that the hard part of the work in porting Rebel engine to Win32 is done, why
>not postpone the release a month or so and make it play a real game as Win32
>app, instead of just using it for analysis? Switching to the stand-alone DOS is
>a time consuming, sometimes flakey process under Win32 (the system sometimes
>won't boot back to Windows), while running it in a DOS box inside Windows, with
>Windows using up half the RAM and wasting CPU cycles on virtualizing all the
>hardware of the DOS box, is not the quite the same thing (to say nothing of the
>low res DOS graphics and DOS mouse support; once you get spoiled with CB/Fritz
>UI, it's hard to go back and play in DOS mode any more).



No, this argument does not work: with a dedicated Windows engine like
Rebel-Tiger or Fritz, you also have Windows taking a lot of RAM and stealing CPU
cycles.

The ONLY problem of being a DOS program is related to GUI issues, not playing
strength.




>Well, I'll get it anyway, however you and Ed finally release it, but given a
>choice, I would still rather wait a month or two for the full RC 3 engine
>running as native Win32 app. Other than Hiarcs 7.32, I liked the Rebel's (10b)
>playing style the best.
>
>And from the reviews here, the Gambit Tiger sounds it will turn out into an
>interesting opponent, as well.



I think so. :)



>BTW are the CT & GT engines native Win32 bit apps or 16-bit Windows apps with
>some extender?



The Tiger engines are native Win32 apps taking full advantage of the 32 bits
features.



    Christophe



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