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Subject: Re: strongest program

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:19:03 11/20/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 19:45:01, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On November 19, 2000 at 18:42:35, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>These turbo-kits were great indeed and I still have a few somewhere
>>perhaps lying under some dust in the attic. But I don't understand
>>your remark on Hegener & Glaser. The Lang-Schroder-Morsch policy you
>>describe is true but that did not mean they provided a turbo-kit
>>for me for each WCCM. I had no complaints.
>
>why should H+G provide a turbo kit for you ?
>their interest is/was in selling EXPENSIVE dedicated chess computers
>such as Amsterdam/Dallas/Roma...68000/68020/68030.

Read again: H+G ALWAYS provided me with the BEST hardware possible
on a World Championship investing many german marks because I always
got the latest and fastest Bsteh machine. And believe me H+G had to
pay big money for that.



>Rebel/MM4/MM5/Polgar etc. etc.
>
>costed only 498,- or 598,- or 798,- DM.
>you were in charge for the middle-class machines.
>Frans was for the 198,- / 298,- DM / 398,- machines.

So what?



>with the Richard Lang machines, they were able to sell 1999,- and even more.
>
>this was the upper-class / high-end-class.
>
>With bringing MM4/5 or Polgar with a Turbo-Kit from
>the middle-class into upper-class , schaetzle and bsteh ruined the whole
>concept they (H+G) developed to get the most out of the market.
>
>cause the 1600,- DM or was it 1900,- don't remember anymore ?!
>have to be paid for the turbo-kit, and only 498,- for the MM4-machine.
>this way the big amount of money was transferred to another company
>than H+G.


No.

The market for the turbo-kit was just too small.


>In the moment the turbo-kit was on top, ssdf "decided" to throw them
>out of the list.
>
>>I don't know why SSDF decided the remove the Turbo-Kits from the
>>list,
>
>no.
>
>>I am sure Mr. Hegener liked it for the reason you describe
>
>?!?!?
>
>Mr. Hegener liked to get 1600-1900 DM less money per unit ?
>aha, interesting. now we know why H+G got bancrott.
>
>
>>but that doesn't mean he was involved in that. Saying such a thing
>>without evidence would be slander.
>>
>>Ed
>
>of course.
>and do you know WHY nobody knows why the ssdf did it ?
>Because they had an interest not to explain their behaviour in a better
>way than they did in those years.
>
>slander again. right.


Yes slander.



>but nobody needs evidence when it is obvious whose INTERESTS have to be
>made real.
>
>tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.
>
>i can tell you e.g. why christian liebert published the thuringen tournament
>where gambit-tiger ran on a 500 Mhz machine !!
>it's obvious. because deep-fritz and junior participated on fast machines,
>the tournament was important for christian, since he works for computerschach
>and spiele and computerschach and spiele is owned by mr. frederic friedel.
>
>tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.

Thuringen is no CSS tournament it never was.

Ed




>one does not need to be nostradamus. its enough to count 1+1 together.
>
>junior wins in thueringen, df participated too, both on fast machines,
>while the biggest concurrent in a 7 round swiss tournament is:
>as we all know: GAMBIT-TIGER not Rebel-Tiger, runs on a 500 Mhz machine
>and plays strange book moves.
>
>and the result is: junior wins and CSS has its big article.
>
>next thing that will happen:
>
>junior and df will be sold in the christmas business.
>
>they need champions, wins, trophys.
>
>fair competition ? never heard of this .
>
>i remember when they tested CSTal in thuringen, on cyrix cpu's.
>
>and you even get the right answer: if you want to win
>next time, send fast hardware to thuringen, dear companies.
>
>aha !
>
>if one sends fast hardware to somebody , the results get better !
>
>very good method.



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