Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:32:08 12/03/00
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On December 03, 2000 at 09:38:05, Ritter Rost wrote: >On December 03, 2000 at 03:37:40, Gregor Overney wrote: > >>I can read commercials about buying computers at CCC, political discussions >>about a countries elections, and tons of people publishing their results about >>engine vs. engine on a single CPU. Well, those "limited" engine vs. engine posts >>might just be acceptable, but the others are definitely not suitable for this >>group. >> >>Either we get rid of moderators or they start doing their job. CCC is not >>getting faster by adding messages that are absolutely not related to CCC. >> >>BTW, why do I not like engine vs. engine wars running on the same CPU? Some >>chess programs rely on extremely fast searches. Other rely more on clever >>evaluation functions and search much less nodes. For the first type of engines, >>frequent cache flashes are a much harder penalty than for those engines that do >>not search a la brute force. So, if you have the need to test your engine, but >>you have only one CPU available, try some free chess server to compete with >>others. Otherwise, give those engines a change to "maxout" their performance on >>a "undisturbed" CPU. A dual CPU system is more or less acceptable. - And use two >>identical systems since a comparison of Crafty running on PII/300 compared to a >>run on PowerPC 400 MHz does not provide too much useful input. If you just want >>to find out how your system compares, check out SpecINT2000 since it contains >>Crafty as one of its test programs (see >>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/CINT2000/186.crafty/docs/186.crafty.html). >> >>Gregor > > >The level of personal attacks in CCC has never been as low as under the current >moderation. > >A lively group needs a lively discussion culture to maintain some social >coherence. Since its so difficult to conduct a meaningful discussion about >computer chess if you aren't a programmer (see the "new paradigm idiocy") or if >you aren't a chess player, contribution possibilities are reduced to mere boring >bean counting. > >So a little off topic here and there helps the sanity of this forum. I tend to agree. I simply "self-moderate" topics I am not interested in, by just not reading them. Some off-topic threads are interesting. As long as they don't go on forever, nor cause complaints.
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