Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 10:40:41 12/16/00
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On December 16, 2000 at 13:18:25, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 16, 2000 at 12:45:33, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On December 16, 2000 at 11:18:04, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On December 16, 2000 at 11:00:12, Andreas St. wrote: >>> >>>>On December 16, 2000 at 10:11:31, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>[D]4rrk1/5ppp/p2b4/1p1Q1b2/3P4/2P3Pq/PP1B1P1P/RN2R1K1 b - - 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>The problem is to find Bf4 >>>>> >>>>>I tried 2 programs Chessmaster6000(ss=10) and Gambittiger and both of them found >>>>>Bf4 in less than an hour on my pIII450 >>>>> >>>>>Chessmaster6000 needed 18 minutes and 31 seconds when Gambittiger needed more >>>>>time but less than an hour(I do not remember the exact time). >>>>> >>>>>Is there a program that is better than the old program chessmaster6000 in >>>>>finding Bf4? >>>>> >>>>>I am interested in the results of Deep Fritz and Chessmaster8000 >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>again i see as always default settings in Chessmaster 6000/7000 arent very good. >>> >>>ss=10 is not the default setting for chessmaster(ss=6 is the default). >>> >>>I know that tests did not prove significant difference between >>>chessmaster6000(ss=10) and other personalities. >>> >>>It is possible that chessmaster6555 is better at test positions(I do not know) >>>but there is no clear evidence which personality is better in games. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I am sure I am missing something. Bf4 looks like a horrible positional >>blunder (1..Bxf4). What is the point of Bf4? >> >>Ed > >You missed the fact that black is the side to move and not white. > >Uri I don't think it's a convincing test position. The programs I tried evaluate Bf4 0.1 or 0.2 better than next best. Gambit Tiger says -0.30 for Bf4 and -0.48 for Rd8. Century 3 also shows tiny differences. What's the complete line? After Bf4 RxR RxR Qg2 black looks better to me, but so it did from the start position. Enrique
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