Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 13:11:58 04/03/01
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Tournament: Odyssey-Tournament
Results Mode Round No 4
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1. REBEL-CENTURY3, (10) - (1) SHREDDER5,
2. JUNIOR6A, (9) - (26) GROMIT 3.8.1,
3. ZCHESS 2.2, (12) - (17) PATZER311B,
4. GAMBIT-TIGER2.0, (2) - (8) DEEP FRITZ,
5. CHESSMASTER8000 1.0.1., (6) - (20) NIMZO8,
6. CHESS SYSTEM TAL2.03, (14) - (19) CRAFTY 18.3,
7. LITTLE-GOLIATH2000V3, (16) - (23) MCHESS8,
8. YACE 0.99.09, (24) - (18) COMET B32,
9. SHREDDER4 CHESSBITS, (5) - (15) WCHESS2000, ½:½
10. GANDALF432H, (11) - (21) GENIUS6.5 CZUB-STYLE, ½:½
11. HIARCS7.01, (4) - (25) EUGEN7.92, 1:0
12. REBEL-TIGER14, (3) - (13) ZARKOV4.5R, ½:½
13. SOCRATES X, (22) - (7) VIRTUAL-CHESS2, 0:1
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one reason why rebel-tiger14 is weaker than gambit-tiger2 (this statement
counts for 13 and gambit-tiger1 too) is, that the normal tiger is not doing
anything, or not doing much in a game.
in chess you need to find a plan.
a player not finding any plan is the worst thing that can happen.
computerchess is full of programs not finding a plan.
gambit-tiger is often different.
same counts for Cstal and a few other programs.
i am sure if lasker would have replayed the computer-games of my tournament,
he would have said: they are not playing chess, they emulate it. and their
method is of doctor tarrasch. they try to be perfect. in an unperfect world.
like tarrasch, they try the impossible.
in opposite to steinitz and capablance, lasker knew that chess cannot be
calculated within life-time of a human beeing, and therefore you cannot always
find a "best-move". so your decision has to be economical. spare your resources.
this way chess is finite, but unattainable.
"The Philosophy of the Unattainable"
not incomplete, but unattainable - a cannot-be-reached status.
this is the battle i have with your people in this forum. They try to 'attain'
perfect knowledge with their search and databases, i say it is unattainable, and
therefore i need a new science (new paradigm) that can deal with the complexity
of operating in an unclear space.
This is a dealing-with-complexity issue. They still try to reduce it all to
simplicity (more of the same, more search, more speed, more memory), i say i
need another way which tries to be 'intelligent' to try to find the solution.
I am sure Lasker would like the new paradigm programs. he would understand that
they try out to play chess in the way he defines in his chess-, in his
philosophy-, in his maths- and even in his physics-discussions with einstein.
god needs no starship. no enterprise.
when chess programs want to reach a new quality, they have IMO to change their
paradigm.
[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"]
[Site "k6-400, 40/120"]
[Date "2001.03.27"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Socrates X"]
[Black "Virtual Chess II"]
[ECO "C45 "]
[Result "0-1"]
[CurrentMove "80"]
{VCI(Level=40 moves/2 hours,Book=Tournament,
Contempt=0.00,Hash=48384K)}
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6. e5 Qe7 7. Qe2
Nd5 8. c4 Nb6 9. Nd2 Qe6 10. b3 Be7 11. Bb2 O-O 12. Qe3 d5 13. Be2 dxc4
14. Bxc4 Nd5 15. Qg3 Qh6 16. Nf3 Bb4+ 17. Kf1 Nb6 18. Be2 Rd8 19. h4 a5
20. h5 Rd5 21. Rh4 Be7 22. Re4 a4 23. Nd4 axb3 24. Nxb3 Qg5 25. Qc3 c5
26. Kg1 Na4 27. Qc4 Bb7 28. Bc1 Qf5 29. g4 Qe6 30. f4 Nb6 31. Qc3 Qc6 32. Qh3
Rd1+ 33. Bxd1 Qxe4 34. Be3 Ra3 35. h6 Nd5 36. Bc1 Rxb3 37. Bxb3 c4 38. e6
Nxf4 39. exf7+ Kf8 40. hxg7+ Kxg7 0-1
[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"]
[Site "k6-400, 40/120"]
[Date "2001.04.01"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Gandalf4.32h"]
[Black "Genius6.5 czub-style"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "40/7200"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Bg5 dxc4 5. e4 b5 6. a4 c6 7. Nc3 Bb7 8. e5
h6 9. Bh4 g5 10. exf6 gxh4 11. axb5 cxb5 12. Nxb5 Bb4+ 13. Nc3 Qxf6 14.
Qa4+ Nc6 15. Ne5 Qf4 16. Be2 Qxd4 17. Nxc6 Bxc3+ 18. bxc3 Qxc3+ 19. Kf1 h3
20. Rb1 hxg2+ 21. Kxg2 Rg8+ 22. Kf1 Qh3+ 23. Ke1 Qc3+ 24. Kd1 Rg5 25. Rxb7
Rd5+ 26. Nd4+ Kd8 27. Qc2 Rxd4+ 28. Kc1 Qa1+ 29. Rb1 Qa5 30. Rd1 Qg5+ 31.
Kb2 Ke7 32. Bxc4 Rf4 33. Bb3 Qe5+ 34. Kc1 Rf3 35. Rd7+ Kf8 36. Qd2 Rc8+ 37.
Bc2 Qf6 38. Qb4+ Kg8 39. Rb2 Rxf2 40. Kb1 Rf1+ 41. Bd1 Rd8 42. Rg2+ Kh8 43.
Rgd2 Rxd7 44. Rxd7 Kg7 45. Qc5 a6 46. h3 Rf2 47. Bc2 Rf1+ 48. Ka2 Qa1+ 49.
Kb3 Rf3+ 50. Rd3 Rxd3+ 51. Bxd3 a5 52. Qf2 a4+ 53. Kb4 a3 54. Qg3+ Kf6 55.
Qf4+ Kg7 56. Qd2 f5 57. Qg2+ Kh7 58. Kb3 a2 59. Qxa2 Qxa2+ 60. Kxa2 Kg6 61.
Bc4 e5 62. Kb3 Kg5 63. Kb4 Kf4 64. Kc5 Ke3 65. Kd5 Kf4 66. Kc5 Ke4 67. Kd6
f4 68. Ke6 f3 69. Bd5+ Kf4 70. Bxf3 Kxf3 71. Kxe5 1/2-1/2
[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"]
[Site "k6-400, 40/120"]
[Date "2001.04.02"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Shredder4 chessbits"]
[Black "Wchess2000"]
[ECO "C06"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. c3 c5 6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Ne2 cxd4 8. cxd4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. Nf3 Qb6 11. O-O Bd6
12. b3 O-O 13. Bf4 Bxf4 14. Nxf4 Bd7 15. Rc1 Rae8 16. Re1
e5 17. dxe5 Ng4 18. Qd2 Nxf2 19. Qxf2 Qxf2+ 20. Kxf2 Rxf4
21. Bb5 Rxe5 22. Rxe5 Nxe5 23. Bxd7 Rxf3+ 24. gxf3 Nd3+
25. Ke3 Nxc1 26. Be6+ Kf8 27. Bxd5 Nxa2 28. Bxb7 Ke7
29. Kd4 Kd6 30. h4 Nc1 31. b4 Ne2+ 32. Ke3 Nc3 33. Kd4 Nb5+
34. Kc4 1/2-1/2
[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"]
[Site "k6-400, 40/120"]
[Date "2001.04.03"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Rebel-Tiger14"]
[Black "Zarkov4.5r"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "40/7200"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 c5 5. dxc5 Na6 6. a3 Bxc3+ 7. Qxc3
Nxc5 8. f3 d6 9. e4 O-O 10. Be3 Qc7 11. Rd1 e5 12. b4 Na4 13. Qd2 Rd8 14.
c5 Be6 15. cxd6 Qd7 16. Bg5 Bb3 17. Rc1 Qxd6 18. Qxd6 Rxd6 19. Nh3 Rdd8 20.
Nf2 Rac8 21. Rxc8 Rxc8 22. Bd3 Nb2 23. O-O Nxd3 24. Nxd3 Nd7 25. Rc1 Rxc1+
26. Bxc1 f6 27. Kf2 Kf7 28. Ke3 Ke6 29. Bd2 b5 30. Nc5+ Nxc5 31. bxc5 Kd7
32. f4 exf4+ 33. Kxf4 Be6 34. Ke3 Kc6 35. Kd4 h5 36. g3 Bc8 37. Bf4 g5 38.
Bd2 g4 39. Bc3 Be6 40. Ba5 Kd7 41. Ke3 Bf7 42. Kf4 Bg6 43. Bc3 Ke6 44. c6
Kd6 45. Bxf6 Kxc6 46. Be7 Bh7 47. Bb4 Kd7 48. Ke5 Kc6 49. Bc3 Bg6 50. Bd2
a6 51. Bb4 Bh7 52. Bc3 Bg6 53. Bd2 Kc5 54. Bb4+ Kc6 55. Bf8 Bh7 1/2-1/2
[Event "Odyssey2001-Tournament"]
[Site "k6-400, 40/120"]
[Date "2001.04.03"]
[Round "4"]
[White "HIARCS7.01"]
[Black "Eugen7.92"]
[Result "1-0"]
{H701: 65472Kb, <3000589b>}
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bg5 c5 5. cxd5 cxd4 6. Qxd4 Be7 7. e4 Nc6
8. Qd2 exd5 9. Bxf6 Bxf6 10. exd5 Qe7+ 11. Nge2 Ne5 12. d6 Qe6 13. O-O-O O-O
14. Nf4 Qf5 15. g3 Nf3 16. Qe3 Ne5 17. Bh3 Nc4 18. Qf3 Qa5 19. d7 Bxd7
20. Rxd7 Rab8 21. Rd5 b5 22. Re1 Rfd8 23. Rxd8+ Rxd8 24. Qc6 Ne5 25. Qe4 b4
26. Ncd5 Qxa2 27. Bf5 b3 28. Rd1 Qa1+ 29. Qb1 Qxb1+ 30. Kxb1 Kh8 31. Bd3 Bg5
32. Be2 g6 33. Nh3 Bh6 34. f4 Nc6 35. Nc3 Rc8 36. Rd7 f5 37. Bd1 Rb8 38. Bf3
Nb4 39. Rxa7 Re8 40. Rb7 Re1+ 41. Nd1 Nc2 42. Rd7 Bf8 43. Ng5 Be7 44. Kc1 h6
45. Nf7+ Kg7 46. Bd5 Ne3 47. Bxb3 Nxd1 48. Rxd1 Re4 49. Rd7 1-0
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