Author: Mogens Larsen
Date: 02:50:31 04/20/01
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On April 19, 2001 at 20:57:38, Chessfun wrote: >Then it still must come out that they asked at some point. Same thing lose, >lose. Then you would say that was also a set up. How can asking be lose-lose situation? That's complete nonsense, since it's the proper way to ensure that someone can participate or not. Especially given the circumstances surrounding Deep Blue. The alternative is much worse, so they can't both be covered by the "lose" label. >Jumping ship how. If he chooses to do so prior to the next release of Junior >is that considered unethical?. It doesn't have anything to do with the next release of Junior or what company he'll join then. It's about participating in ICCA events, eg. World Championships, and then abandon the organization for another for monetary gain while being a member of ICCA. >Strongest SMP program at what. They were never going to determine strongest >SMP program against humans?. That is correct and noone said so. The key component was playing under the usual match conditions, because that is how the winner will play against Kramnik. >I believe it is correct. Please name for me just one program which you believe >aside from Shredder which would beat Deep Fritz on 8 cpus in a match of say 40 >games?. How am I supposed to know? I could mention Ferret, Crafty or PConners, but I wouldn't know and neither would you. They would probably have a very hard time beating Deep Fritz. That is not the point, however. The point is proper openness as I've mentioned a few times before. We don't even know if the qualifier will use two eight CPU machines or just two duals. Somehow the latter sounds most likely, depending on the generosity of the machine sponsor of course. >Read above. Any program can will win a tournament give it 40 match games and >it's another story. Actually, autoplaying forty games isn't particularly decisive. If the eventual winner had defeated four, or more, different programs in thirty-forty game matches then it's something else. That could have been arranged easily IMO. >Posted from the Braingames network. >Seems they are calling it the 2001 Challenge. >I see no mention of World Championship?. nor World's best computer?. The text could easily be ancient news. If it was recent, why is there no mention of the challengers? And why not write that the venue is Cadaques? Or that the Man vs. Machine match will take place in Bahrain? All info is already known. I tend to believe someone quoting from an actual invitation more than an undated webpage. If BGN is going to call it Man vs. one of the strongest, then I wouldn't have a problem with the title, believe me. I oppose to titles like "Strongest" and "World Champion", because they would be false. I would still find the selection process narrowminded, the conditions ridiculous and the event as a front for a cash machine, but that would just be my opinion. >Championship title? see above. No, not quite. >Also as a computer chess expert he gave his expert advice, which apparently >Braingames excepted. Again you know nothing of the selection process between >BGN, Enrique and Bertil. The endresult is clear and so is Bertil's account of his contemplations. They weren't very impressive. A complete newbie could select commercial engines by SMP capability. The reluctance to let go of the single cpu progs was quite touching though. He didn't add Deep Blue IIRC, so that serves him some credit. BGN took care of that part. Regards, Mogens
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