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Subject: Re: *Not* lies

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 15:04:04 05/03/01

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On May 03, 2001 at 17:04:05, Larry Proffer wrote:

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>Given the inconsistencies in the Ed Schroder - Christophe Theron position vis a
>vis Rebel and Tiger position, participation, withdrawal or whatever in the BGN
>qualifier, it is not possible to rely, in my opinion, on the statement of Ed
>Schroder that he did not pursue his entry of Rebel into the qualifier in order
>to allow him to concentrate on the Tiger entry.

On April 20 I was told a 4th participant was out of the question because
of time reasons. There was a dead line the Qualifier should end. So I gave
up on Rebel in favor of Tiger. The choice to favor Tiger was easy because
I consider Tiger clearly stronger than Rebel in comp-comp. Furthermore the
SMP Rebel has no autoplayer function (which was a demand) as it runs in a
simple text based interface (no graphics).

Ed


>Therefore relying on the Ed Schroder - Rebel statement to query the press report
>"with many of the leading programs, such as Shredder and Rebel, refusing to
>play" is not justifiable.
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>It is perfectly possible that Rebel 'refused' to play and that the press report
>is accurate. There is a thin line between not pursueing an entry and pulling it
>out as a withdrawal.

I did not refuse to play. The situation was hectic and asked for fast
decisions and I did not want to create new obstacles.

Ed


>The situation, as with the other events, is exceptionally unclear.
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>On May 03, 2001 at 03:48:39, Larry Proffer wrote:
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>>In today's UK Telegraph, presumably reproducing verbatim from somebody's press
>>release, it states:
>>
>>1. Sponsorship is Dollars 2 million US. Dollars 0.8mn US to Kramnik if he wins,
>>0.6mn US if he loses.
>>
>>2. That Deep Blue 'flummoxed' Kasparov in 1997 by comfronting him with a
>>different progam mid-match.
>>
>>3. That Kramnik can study the program for a 'few months' in advance, but not its
>>opening book.
>>
>>4. Junior-Fritz contest was organised by 'leading computer chess expert'
>>professor Enrique Irazoqui at Cadaques in Spain.
>>
>>5. There was controversy in computer world because only two programs took part.
>>
>>6. Many of the leading programs, such as Shredder and Rebel, refused to play.
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>>7. In the second half of the Frizt-Junior match, deep Fritz 'changed its
>>openings' and headed for quiet positions in which it proved superior.
>>
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>>I'll quote directly the 'refuse to play' bit:
>>
>>"Deep Fritz qualified to play Kramnik by defeating its rival Deep Junior in a
>>contest organised by leading computer chess expert Professor Enrique Irazoqui at
>>Cadaques in Spain. There was much controversy in the computer chess world
>>because only two programs took part, with many of the leading programs, such as
>>Shredder and Rebel, refusing to play".
>>
>>This was the only comment on the 2-play thing.



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