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Subject: Re: It's too early to say. Don't make any risky comment at this point.

Author: william penn

Date: 01:41:06 05/30/01

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On May 30, 2001 at 04:25:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 30, 2001 at 02:57:04, william penn wrote:
>
>>  I Would agree with you Christophe if your opponent was century3, or junior6,
>>or even say Shredder5, but CM8000, HAS a losing record, not only in the ssdf,
>>but in tournament play. Look at the recent cct3 results, a top program just
>>would do better then this, if infact it is a top program.
>
>Chessmaster didn't participate in CCT-3, so I fail to see the point of your
>reasoning.
>
>>I PREDICT THE FINAL
>>SCORE WILL BE SIMILIAR IF NOT IDENTICAL TO THE DEEP FRITZ CM8000 MATCH. I Wish
>>everyone would just admit the truth, CM8000 IS Simply weaker then it's
>>predessor, this happened also with mchess7 and mchess8, although the difference
>>between them was not as great as between cm8000 and cm6000.
>
>CM8000 might be weaker or even significantly weaker than CM6000. For that
>matter, it could just as well be stronger. Without results noone knows, which
>have been mentioned quite a few times by now. However, you can't make any such
>conclusions based on the results of CM8000 alone. As a matter of fact, the lack
>of an updated opening book, learning and tablebases are significant
>disadvantages in this day and age. And it guarantees an absolute loss to all
>semi-recent engines given the SSDF match format IMO. That would most likely
>apply to CM6000 as well.
>
>Regards,
>Mogens

  Well Chessmaster 6000 doesn't have all the learning features and book as well,
yet it placed number 1 on ssdf, so i fail to see your reasoning. Anyway i
thought the book and learning, ect, are part of the program? If Cm8000 lacks
those things , then that's part of its weakness. i think Cm 6000 participated in
a one tournament of note recently and it took third place, a very good result
for such an old program.



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