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Subject: Re: Tiger, Goliath and Crafty in tactical comparison

Author: José Carlos

Date: 03:14:37 06/13/01

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On June 13, 2001 at 06:02:38, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 13, 2001 at 01:14:51, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>I run these 3 programs in my test suite, which contains 100 hard, but correct
>>ECM positions. I compared solved positions after 5s, 20s, 1m, 3m and 10 minutes
>>in my AMD 450Mhz (hash 90-128MB). Here's results:
>>
>>                   5s   20s   1m   3m   10m
>>Chess Tiger 14     30   49    62   77   84
>>Goliath Light      17   46    74   84   91
>>Crafty 18.7        12   30    47   64   82
>>
>>Here's same as graph:
>>
>>   |                                                x
>>90 +
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |                                      x         t
>>   |                                                c
>>80 +
>>   |
>>   |                                      t
>>   |                            x
>>   |
>>70 +
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |                                      c
>>   |                            t
>>60 +
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>50 +                  t
>>   |                            c
>>   |                  x
>>   |
>>   |
>>40 +
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>30 +        t         c
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |                             x = Goliath
>>20 +                             t = Tiger
>>   |                             c = Crafty
>>   |        x
>>   |
>>   |        c
>>10 +
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |
>>   ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>            5s        20s       1m        3m        10m
>>
>>Interestingly Crafty gets more positions almost linear. Tiger starts best, but
>>then Goliath goes over. This is no big surprise, when it peaks over 1,4MNPS.
>>
>>Jouni
>
>
>
>A program's NPS is probably one of the worse indicator about anything related to
>playing strength or tactical abilities.
>
>Like saying that a chess program is good because the engine is over 800Kb in
>size.
>
>
>
>    Christophe

  The interesting thing of the graph is the shape of the curves. Although the
x-axis scale is not constant (which makes the "Crafty gets more positions almost
linear" statement not correct) the shape of the curves show different strength
increase with time for the three programs.
  Of course, you can argue that this is just a test, and doesn't prove anything
itself. And I agree with that. But it will mean something _if_ further tests
give similar results.

  José C.



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