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Subject: Re: GM's are determined by meeting FIDE TITLE criteria not by rating

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 03:59:56 06/16/01

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On June 16, 2001 at 06:14:47, Bill Gletsos wrote:

>If you want to claim a computer is a GM let the computer earn the GM title just
>like any human would have to.
>
>Clearly a player is a GM because they meet the necessary FIDE Title criteria
>not because they have a 2500 rating. GM's didnt get their titles because of
>their rating but due to meeting a set of criteria that established them as
>being of as
>some of you would call it "GM strength". In general this criteria requires them
>to get 2 or more GM "norms" in events covering at least 24 games(30 games
>without a round robin or Olympiad) and a rating of at least 2500(within 7 years
>of acheiving the first GM norm). These events have to be valid Title events.

This will make it quite problematic for a computer to ever get a GM
norm simply because most players wil refuse to play it. Also you are
not going to find much valid title events where computers are allowed.
The performance of the computer will depend a lot on how prepared the
humans are to play it.

The 'rating of at least 2500' is also problematic for reasons which have
been stated already.

Unless FIDE will suddenly treat computers like humans when entering into
events and enters them in the rating lists, and waits a few years for
the new ratings pool to stablilize and all humans learn about their new
opponents, you are going to have an unfair situation.

Even then, the only thing you will be able to say is that computers
perform at the same level as humans when playing tournaments.

I agree with Bruce that comparing humans and GM's is like comparing
soldiers and tanks.

--
GCP



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