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Subject: Re: Crafty in a GM tournament on Chess.Net

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 08:50:01 04/26/98

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>> Hi Bob,
>>
>>Again, as I mentioned in a previous post, I think you over-rate the
>>time control advantage for computers.   I do not deny that computers
>>are better relative to humans at faster time controls, this is well
>>known.   But 10-10 is starting to get pretty comfortable for human
>>players.
>>
>>If a computer is indeed in the same league as some given player at
>>10-10,  you should not expect to be completely outclassed at tournament
>>time controls.  The humans will certainly play MUCH stronger at 40/2 but
>>so will Crafty.  In my opinion the difference is not as HUGE as you
>>would have us believe.
>>
>>- Don
>
>
>
>I think it's bigger than you think.  IE I personally would expect to
>lose
>at least 3 of every 4 games at 40/2 vs a GM like Larry or Roman.  Yet
>both
>are maybe 2600 level...  when I lose 3 of 4 (which means I win 1 of 4
>which
>is not a bad results when you think about it) guess where my rating ends
>up?
>
>2400, that's where...  and that's 150 points below what it takes to be
>called a GM...

Hi Bob,

You could be closer to the truth than I am.  Even though your
numbers seem high to me I don't have any really serious data
to back me up.  I have lot's of anecdotes but I'm sure you do
too.

It would help if someone had a LOT of rated tournament games and
also a lot of fast (but not speed chess) games for the very same
program.   I'll bet the USCF has some machines certified at more
than 1 time control.  Do they still do these certifications?

The only problem even with this, is that each rating could easily
be off 50 points or more.  That would make a lot of difference
if they were both off in opposite directions!

- Don




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