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Subject: Re: Someone Better Stop Tiger or This GM Debate is Going to be over Quick!

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 05:28:42 06/26/01

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On June 26, 2001 at 04:53:05, Mark Young wrote:

>ChessTiger has now produced 2 wins in a row and a draw against strong titled IM
>players. It must be noted ChessTiger is doing this on hardware that is not
>considered ultra fast PIII 866 256 MB Ram. Most people own hardware this good or
>better. This is not a chess program running on thousands of dollars with of
>equipment with 8 CPUs.
>
>If ChessTiger continues playing as well as it is, the 2100 elo crowd or the No
>way computers are GM crowd will have to come up with someway to explain this
>performance. As I doubt it will change anyone’s mind even if ChessTiger wins
>this tournament.

Several people who use to be in the "programs are less than 2500" camp have
revised their view based on results.  This is the right thing to do, I would
change my view if the results went the other way over a couple of hundred games
(unlikely to happen).

The following is not a slam on anyone, everyone is entitled to their opinion,
this is just my own rational for why people have the opposing view:

1. They have their opinion and nothing is going to change it.  Thats ok, I can
agree to disagree, everone does not have to share my opinion, but I will not
change my view without actual results to back it up (couple of hundred games
that would drop the performance of the programs to 2100 or whatever).

2. Money ($$$).  If programs are strong, the the thought is that "chess" may not
be a good money generator for Phd research.  Some people have researh and
teaching careers tied into making programs "GM strength" or better than 2500.
If commercial programs already do this, then the money for reaearch goes away.

3.  Ego may also play into this.  Once someone makes a stand, it is very hard to
change a belief.

There may be other explanations, but these make sense to me.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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