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Subject: Re: first step in defining if a program is Gm level

Author: Mark Young

Date: 04:30:55 07/02/01

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On July 02, 2001 at 07:00:43, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

>On July 02, 2001 at 03:24:14, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>I don't think anykind of chess program no matter how well it plays is a big
>>achievement in A.I. Chess is 100% tactical, and one big finite tree. What is
>>amazing is how well humans can play the game, not computers. Chess, Checkers, is
>>simple. Go is harder, but just a bigger Tree.
>>
>>For me the Real A. I. test for computers is not any of those games.
>>
>>Poker is a true test for computer A. I. in terms of games. IMO.
>
>
>I agree with you that Chess is very tactical game (let's say 95 %) , but if you
>say that it's not an achievement to have chess programs playing like GM for the
>artificial intelligence science you are simply saying that no intelligence is
>needed to play chess...and as you stated before is instead needed to play poker.
>:)

That is exactly what I am saying...no intelligence is needed to play chess. It
can be solved by pure calculation. That however is not how humans approch the
game. Humans use their intelligence as a short cut...computers use mostly
calculation.

Since calculation can bring you the same degree of understanding computer can
perform as Grandmasters. However computers programs are using no real
intelligence.

Poker posses a more difficult challenges to a computer’s A. I., as judgment and
understanding can not be mimicked by calculation alone. Since poker is not
always won by having a superior position, or in this case the strongest hand.



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