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Subject: Re: WMCC

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 23:46:24 07/09/01

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On July 09, 2001 at 12:21:38, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On July 09, 2001 at 10:45:12, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>soon readable on the webpages http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/olympiad/
>>
>>WMCC open for all types of computers, as long as you bring it in.
>>
>>Take out your quads and alfa's.
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>Tony
>
>When was it announced anywhere that this was open to multiprocessor machines?
>Who was the first potential competitor to find out about it, and when did they
>find out about it?

I was the first, but I'm using singleprocessor so it doesn't matter. I
immediately posted the link to the rules here to make sure everybody could find
out.

>
>This event is getting really painful.  It is always in Europe.  There is always
>a short time between when the accepted applicant list is posted and the time of
>the tournament, so the plane flight is expensive.

In this case there isn't really an accepted applicants list since it's part of
the computer olympiad. ie enough room for everybody.

>There is no travel support
>for anyone going to Europe, although when the tournament is outside Europe the
>plane ticket is free.

I wouldn't know. I haven't been to such an event outside europe. It would be a
question if it would still be that way today. It becomes harder every time to
find a sponsor.

>The rules change some rules aren't enforced.

Sorry, don't get this point.

>Even the
>name of the event has changed.

No, it's just the name of the sponsor. If you're lucky enough to find a sponsor
in europe, they want their name in the eventtitle :(

>
>What if I had bought a computer for this last week?  Suddenly I get there and
>I'm not competitive because I assumed, with a month left, that it was a
>single-processor event.

I have to disagree. Last year multiprocessors machines were not banished from
the event. The just had to show they were only using one processor.( Diep and
Junior if I remember correctly )

If your program benefits from multiprocessor and you want to play at tournaments
and you then buy a single processor, then your choice was wrong.

Second, for most people the difference between a single and a multiprocessor
does not make the difference between being competitive or not. It's the same
discussion every year before such an event. Program A is going to win because
the processor is 50% faster than program B. It's just not true, as is shown
every year after the event. Of course, faster (or more) processors help. But not
that much.

>
>I haven't even applied to go yet.  It sounds too awful to contemplate.

I hope you will,

cheers,

Tony

>
>Thank you,
>
>bruce



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