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Subject: Re: SSDF and question for Tony

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 04:48:06 07/24/01

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On July 24, 2001 at 05:17:48, Harald Faber wrote:

>On July 24, 2001 at 04:34:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 24, 2001 at 04:23:15, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On July 24, 2001 at 02:44:38, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 24, 2001 at 01:18:47, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>So you just need to take care that DeepFritz wins the last two games and we get
>>>>>the standard-Fritz-result. ;-))
>>>>
>>>>I'm writing this from my job. Tonights game was won by Deep Fritz, and it had a
>>>>small advantage in the opening in the second game.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Hehe, so DeepFritz wins again and remains unbeaten in long term matches. :-))
>>>Isn't it strange? It suggests superiority which in fact is not present...
>>
>>It is present in long mathces.
>
>Yes, maybe, but not in chess. :-)
>
>>It is possible that other program may have superiority in the opening book but
>>after Fritz learns to avoid bad lines it can win matches.
>>
>>Uri
>
>So SSDF honours the best learner and not the best chess program. ;-)
>For extreme cases it may lead to DeepFritz playing 5-10 opening lines for black
>and for white and win matches. Isn't this scenario fantastic?
>
>Actually, what is/was the original intention of the SSDF?
>
>For Tony: Do you reset the weights in the opening book before you start new
>matches or do you take over the learned move preferences from former matches?

I don't reset the opening book.

But for the matches I now play it doesn't matter. In the first match, Deep Fritz
- Tiger 14 CB  20-20, DP was on my "left computer". In the present match,
Gambit Tiger 2 CP - Deep Fritz 18-21(so far), DP is on my "right computer". So
Deep Fritz didn't learn anything from Tiger 14 CB. But in the next match, Gambit
Tiger 2 CP - Tiger 14 CB, both programs have had the possibility to learn from
Deep Fritz. So in that sence we honours the best learner, which probably also is
the best program.

Tony



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