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Subject: Re: Mr. Morsch viewpoint on the differences between Deep Blue and Deep Fritz

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:45:56 08/01/01

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On July 31, 2001 at 22:37:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 31, 2001 at 18:36:53, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>Franz Morsch saying the main difference between this version of Fritz compared
>>to its predecessors did not lie so much in greater chess knowledge but more due
>>to the machines newfound ability to deal with anti-computer chess strategy, and
>>to learn from its mistakes. He also said that he believed that this incarnation
>>of Fritz is every bit as strong as the Deep Blue II that defeated Kasparov and
>>has far greater "chess knowledge".
>><snip>
>>
>>Good to say that...:)
>>
>>Regards.
>
>
>If that is a direct quote from Frans, my respect for him just took a _huge_
>nose-dive.  The quote is simply nonsense.

Deep Blue was a machine that the world saw play 12 games almost 5 years ago.
None of those games were against another computer.  After those 12 games, it
disappeared forever.

I think that it would be a mistake to found a religion based upon this.  The
"Deep Blue was awesome and we can never hope to surpass" it attitude does not
further computer chess, even a little.

If they want to disappear, fine, let's all forget them and move on.

If Frans wants to say something like this, it's not much different than
assigning all sorts of god-like capabilities to the machine.

If they want the reputation, let's see them rejoin the community and play a
bunch of games.

If they don't want to do that, it's hard to provide substantitive
counter-argument against the "Deep Blue Sucks" people, and I don't see why any
of us should try.

Bob, they left and they aren't coming back.  They didn't make much of a real
legend before they left.  Posthumous attempts to create a legend for them
shouldn't be our business.

If Frans beats Kramnik then bravo Frans.

If he does beat Kramnik, I bet he'll be at the WCCC next year.

bruce



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