Author: Lonnie Cook
Date: 15:52:16 08/30/01
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On August 30, 2001 at 15:47:11, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 30, 2001 at 14:16:49, Joshua Lee wrote: > >>On August 30, 2001 at 08:50:52, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>It has been suggested here that programs have made little progress in the last >>>10 years other then hardware speed. Here is the list of top programs 6 years >>>ago. Does anyone really think a program of 4, 6 or 10 years ago running on >>>modern but equal hardware would have a chance of beating a Junior 7, Deep Fritz, >>>Chess Tiger in a match. I think someone is pulling our legs. >>> >>>If the suggestion that programs have not progressed much is correct, then we >>>have been suckered by all programmers who offer us so called better and stronger >>>version of their programs. >>> >> >>The answer is yes, if you read the comments to the SSDF list they quote 79 >>points roughly per double >>Take Rebel 7's 2416 on a pentium 90 >>which would be 2495 on a 200Mhz >>and 2574 on the 450 >>and on the 1.2Ghz Athlon it will probably be more than 79points >> >>2653 equal to Gambit Tiger 2.0 on a 450 >>ofcourse GT2 according to their 79point theory on the 1.2 Ghz should be around >>2732 which sounds silly c'mon you really think any program on a 1.2 ghz athlon >>would be able to beat Capablanca at his peak ?? Wake the hell up but that is >>another argument... > >Do you suggest that kapablanca's best rating was 2732 of today? > >I believe kapablanca at his peak was clearly weaker than 2732. > >today players know more about chess then they knew in the past and I am even not >sure if kapablanca with no more knowledge about opening and about the game could >be a GM. I totally agree, I think players of the past would be in for a rude awakening playing some of these programs today. > >We have no way to use only results to compare rating of players of today with >rating of players of the past. > >I also believe that 79 points per doubling is not correct and I expect old >programs like Rebel7 to get less than 79 points from doubling the speed. > >Uri
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