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Subject: Re: Back in time

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:47:11 08/30/01

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On August 30, 2001 at 14:16:49, Joshua Lee wrote:

>On August 30, 2001 at 08:50:52, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>It has been suggested here that programs have made little progress in the last
>>10 years other then hardware speed. Here is the list of top programs 6 years
>>ago. Does anyone really think a program of 4, 6 or 10 years ago running on
>>modern but equal hardware would have a chance of beating a Junior 7, Deep Fritz,
>>Chess Tiger in a match. I think someone is pulling our legs.
>>
>>If the suggestion that programs have not progressed much is correct, then we
>>have been suckered by all programmers who offer us so called better and stronger
>>version of their programs.
>>
>
>The answer is yes, if you read the comments to the SSDF list they quote 79
>points roughly per double
>Take Rebel 7's 2416 on a pentium 90
>which would be 2495 on a 200Mhz
>and            2574 on the 450
>and on the 1.2Ghz Athlon it will probably be more than 79points
>
>2653 equal to Gambit Tiger 2.0 on a 450
>ofcourse GT2 according to their 79point theory on the 1.2 Ghz should be around
>2732 which sounds silly  c'mon you really think any program on a 1.2 ghz athlon
>would be able to beat Capablanca at his peak ?? Wake the hell up but that is
>another argument...

Do you suggest that kapablanca's best rating was 2732 of today?

I believe kapablanca at his peak was clearly weaker than 2732.

today players know more about chess then they knew in the past and I am even not
sure if kapablanca with no more knowledge about opening and about the game could
be a GM.

We have no way to use only results to compare rating of players of today with
rating of players of the past.

I also believe that 79 points per doubling is not correct and I expect old
programs like Rebel7 to get less than 79 points from doubling the speed.

Uri



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