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Subject: Re: Fritz 7 v Junior 7 has ended (24 games pgn, long)

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 14:14:14 11/10/01

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On November 10, 2001 at 16:03:19, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On November 10, 2001 at 14:31:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On November 10, 2001 at 13:56:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>with all respect Jonas,
>>
>>but please look at the bloody nonsense lines the engines play.
>>How can you take that serious? Also Fritz doesn't seem to be
>>learning at all, nor does Junior. Did you turn off learning?
>>
>>Opening like 1.d4,d5 2.nf3,a6
>>
>>How for **** sake can you present this as fritz-junior games?
>>
>>
>I ran the match in 3 parts and i might have forgotten to turn on book learn in
>one of those, but i am quite sure that i did not forget.

Hello:

How can you run a Match where you forget the learning capacity in one part of
the Match??

Interesting Matches (This is my opinion) are: 1) A Match with the Fritz Book
capacities learning enabled; 2) A Match with the Fritz Book capacities learning
unabled.

If you run a Computer Match, you shouldn't change the initial conditions after
the Match has been started up.

>
>I use the default book for the engine tested against other opponents and for the
>opponents i use a book generated from 2600.pgn which means: shorter openeing
>lines and more exotic openings to avoid the same ol' openings we see all the
>time.

A random opening book has the problem of many blunders and it cannot mean you
have more exotic openings. If you generate a book from a pgn file, Fritz will
save the statistics about the opening lines. Then, you can have the same main
openings of the standard book with more blunders.

It would be interesting, if you can generate a book from a pgn file of a
specific opening line. For example: the mentioned Sicilian "Exotic" Line.
And see the result after 24 games. It would be really interesting to see 24
games with a weird Sicilian line!!! :)


>
>This is not an attempt to run perfect games, with perfect lines that suit you
>Vincent, this is purely an experiment, take it or leave it.
>And with all respect Vincent, grow up!!

I agree that this is not an attempt of the perfection but this cannot be
consider a "pure experiment", when you haven't controled the most important
variables of this Match to publish this result.

I understand perfectly what Vincent means and there's no matter of growing up of
keeping like a child.

It matters of how you can run a reliable Tournament although the opening book is
a random book.

>
>Regards
>Jonas

Best wishes, A8A.




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