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Subject: Re: The probability to find better move is simply irrelevant for diminishing

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 05:56:52 02/09/02

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On February 09, 2002 at 08:42:38, José Carlos wrote:

>On February 09, 2002 at 07:44:27, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On February 09, 2002 at 07:08:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>returns.
>>>
>>>Imagine the following simple game:
>>>Every side need to say in it's turn if it resigns or not resign.
>>>The game is finished only when one side resigns.
>>>
>>>If both sides never resign the game is never finished.
>>>
>>>
>>>Imagine the following 3 programs for that simple game:
>>>
>>>
>>>Program A resigns with probability of 10% in every move
>>>Program B resigns with probability of 1% in every move
>>>Program C never resigns.
>>>
>>>program C finds better move than program B only in 1% of the cases but in games
>>>C always wins against B(B will do a mistake of resigning after enough moves).
>>
>>No, this is where you get it wrong IMO.
>>See C will not _always_ beat B, because the games will end at some point and
>>this will give B a winning probability greater than zero.
>
>  I don't understand his point, but in the game he figured he said the game only
>finishes when one player resings, so if C never resings, C will never lose. As B
>has 1% probability of resigning, it will lose the game after 100 moves or so.
>
>  José C.

1% chance of resigning, also means that some games will be played to move 200
without B resigning. Many games will be dead drawn by move 200, so C will not
_always_ win.
Besides Uri did only consider win/lose as an option, chess also has a draw, and
it is possible that if B is white, then B can make a mistake and throw away the
win while still managing to draw.

-S.



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