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Subject: Re: Another Clever Problem; Samuel Loyd New York Albion 1857, Att. Dr. Hyatt

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 13:21:22 03/06/02

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On March 06, 2002 at 15:59:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 06, 2002 at 13:55:14, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On March 06, 2002 at 13:09:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 06, 2002 at 11:20:17, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]8/8/8/8/8/6P1/6k1/4KR1R w
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mate in 3
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>This is a mate in 4, not a mate in 3, as confirmed by EGTBs...
>>
>>Dr. Hyatt with all due respect, EGTBs will _not_ help you with this type
>>of problem. EGTBs look at it as an endgame where it's assumed the King and both
>>Rooks have been moved. Maybe EGTBs can be adjusted for this situation?
>>
>>Castling is the correct solution, which forces mate in 3.
>>
>>BTW CM8000 in mate mode or in normal mode will find mate in 3 instantly!
>>
>>This problem created 145 years ago by Samuel Lloyd when he was not yet 16 years
>>of age, is still considered one of the most famous problems in chess history.
>>
>>http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/puzz9-6a.htm
>>
>>The solution can be found at this link.
>>
>>http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/games/p9_6.htm
>>
>>Regards,
>> Terry McCracken
>
>
>Sorry, but if you check the +EPD+ posted for the position, there is _no_
>castling possible.  Which means this is a simple mate in 4 and the EGTB
>results are perfect.

The position was:
8/8/8/8/8/6P1/6k1/4KR1R w

if there where no castling possible, shouldn't it have been:
8/8/8/8/8/6P1/6k1/4KR1R w -

leaving out the "-" probably indicates there might or might not be castle
rights.

Guess we need to feed the engines all possible combinations...

-S.



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