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Subject: Re: Hammer info. And som SMP musings.

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 14:00:04 03/24/02

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On March 24, 2002 at 00:00:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 23, 2002 at 17:21:10, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On March 23, 2002 at 17:07:53, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On March 23, 2002 at 15:58:19, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 23, 2002 at 09:53:13, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>As seen in:
>>>>>http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000312
>>>>>A chess program using traditional work scheduling algorithms will not be using
>>>>>the Hammer architecture at its most effective. But it won't be all that bad due
>>>>>to the HyperTransport tunnels. And high bandwidth memory. A funny consequence of
>>>>>the architecture is that SMP multiprocessing is achieved by having software
>>>>>drivers.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know what you mean by "traditional work scheduling algorithms" but the
>>>>Hammer will be great for running chess programs out of the box. The only way to
>>>>make it faster would be to recompile the programs for x86-64, which reportedly
>>>>yields a 10-15% performance gain.
>>>
>>>The Hammer is a 64-bit chip, I expect it to bring a lot more than just 10-15% in
>>>chess, more like 100-150% for those progs with bitboards.
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>You're dreaming.  Alpha's don't get *anywhere* near that kind of gain.  More
>>like the 10-15% that Tom said.
>>
>
>
>Depends.  Tim Mann produced > 1M nodes per second on a 600mhz alpha.  NO
>600 mhz Intel will come within 1/2 that total...

We were talking about gain, not absolute performance. You've just muddied the
waters here.

-Tom



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